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Monkeysdad

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Apr 26, 2012 - 12:29pm |
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DaveInVA wrote: Interesting article.Okay, I won't jack this forum with anything else about taxes but I thought it was relevant....
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Monkeysdad

Location: Simi Valley, CA Gender:  
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Apr 26, 2012 - 11:53am |
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sirdroseph wrote:I find it amusing that people actually think it makes a difference.  Well yeah, there's that....
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sirdroseph

Location: Not here, I tell you wat Gender:  
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Apr 26, 2012 - 11:49am |
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Monkeysdad wrote: You sound nervous that he might actually win.
I find it amusing that people actually think it makes a difference.
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Monkeysdad

Location: Simi Valley, CA Gender:  
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Apr 26, 2012 - 11:42am |
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hippiechick wrote: Because Romney is one of the biggest tax offenders around.
You sound nervous that he might actually win.
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DaveInSaoMiguel

Location: No longer in a hovel in effluent Damnville, VA Gender:  
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Apr 26, 2012 - 11:07am |
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sirdroseph wrote:Ain't now way someone with that much common sense will ever sniff the White House, but he does have my vote which of course will do him absolutely no good!  I'd rather vote for him than feel partly responsable for helping one of the others get in. And then I can't be blamed when they f*ck up.
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islander

Location: Seattle Gender:  
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Apr 26, 2012 - 11:05am |
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sirdroseph wrote:Ain't now way someone with that much common sense will ever sniff the White House, but he does have my vote which of course will do him absolutely no good!  "Group W bench for Johnson"
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sirdroseph

Location: Not here, I tell you wat Gender:  
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Apr 26, 2012 - 10:59am |
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islander wrote: I wish Gary Johnson could just go for the cool vote:
Gary Johnson is cooler than you. He lost toes to frostbite on Mount Everest (he made the summit). He's also stood atop McKinley and Kilimanjaro. He competes in mountain bike races. He broke his knee and back in a parachute mishap.
Oh, and during his two terms as governer of New Mexico he fixed the budget problems, dealt with immigration, increased jobs and remodeled the governor's mansion.
Ain't now way someone with that much common sense will ever sniff the White House, but he does have my vote which of course will do him absolutely no good!
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hippiechick

Location: topsy turvy land Gender:  
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Apr 26, 2012 - 10:57am |
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Monkeysdad wrote:Okay, I went back a reread the article, how'd you go from the rich stealing OR illegals getting a windfall from tax credits/stealing to how I'm going to vote?  Because Romney is one of the biggest tax offenders around.
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Monkeysdad

Location: Simi Valley, CA Gender:  
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Apr 26, 2012 - 10:52am |
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hippiechick wrote: Does that mean you will not vote for Romney?
Okay, I went back a reread the article, how'd you go from the rich stealing OR illegals getting a windfall from tax credits/stealing to how I'm going to vote?
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islander

Location: Seattle Gender:  
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Apr 26, 2012 - 10:45am |
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sirdroseph wrote:Gary Johnson awaits your vote Dave!  I wish Gary Johnson could just go for the cool vote: Gary Johnson is cooler than you. He lost toes to frostbite on Mount Everest (he made the summit). He's also stood atop McKinley and Kilimanjaro. He competes in mountain bike races. He broke his knee and back in a parachute mishap. Oh, and during his two terms as governer of New Mexico he fixed the budget problems, dealt with immigration, increased jobs and remodeled the governor's mansion.
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sirdroseph

Location: Not here, I tell you wat Gender:  
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Apr 26, 2012 - 10:01am |
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DaveInVA wrote: I don't want to vote for any of them, its like being asked "Do you want to ge shot with a shotgun or a 45?"
Gary Johnson awaits your vote Dave!
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hippiechick

Location: topsy turvy land Gender:  
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Apr 26, 2012 - 10:00am |
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DaveInVA wrote: I don't want to vote for any of them, its like being asked "Do you want to ge shot with a shotgun or a 45?"
 I was actually asking MD but thanks for playing
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DaveInSaoMiguel

Location: No longer in a hovel in effluent Damnville, VA Gender:  
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Apr 26, 2012 - 9:59am |
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hippiechick wrote: Does that mean you will not vote for Romney?
I don't want to vote for any of them, its like being asked "Do you want to ge shot with a shotgun or a 45?"
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hippiechick

Location: topsy turvy land Gender:  
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Apr 26, 2012 - 9:47am |
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Monkeysdad wrote: I get all up when anybody does it.
Does that mean you will not vote for Romney?
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Monkeysdad

Location: Simi Valley, CA Gender:  
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Apr 26, 2012 - 9:45am |
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hippiechick wrote: Why is it that rich people can steal, but we get all up when poor people do it?
I get all up when anybody does it.
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hippiechick

Location: topsy turvy land Gender:  
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Apr 26, 2012 - 9:31am |
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cc_rider wrote:I think it's similar to the EIC or something. You have more deductions than you have income, so they give you money. I don't think it's a refund.
Again, the system is broken. No matter how you feel about the situation, the system simply does not work for the good of the people. Well, not for the vast majority of wage-earners, anyway.
Why is it that rich people can steal, but we get all up when poor people do it?
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cc_rider

Location: Bastrop Gender:  
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Apr 26, 2012 - 9:28am |
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hippiechick wrote: How do you get a refund if you don't pay in? The refurn is for overpaying, right?
I think it's similar to the EIC or something. You have more deductions than you have income, so they give you money. I don't think it's a refund. Again, the system is broken. No matter how you feel about the situation, the system simply does not work for the good of the people. Well, not for the vast majority of wage-earners, anyway.
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DaveInSaoMiguel

Location: No longer in a hovel in effluent Damnville, VA Gender:  
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Apr 26, 2012 - 9:27am |
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hippiechick wrote: How do you get a refund if you don't pay in? The refurn is for overpaying, right?
From the article: " Refundable credits can result in refunds even if no income tax is withheld or paid," the report noted. "
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hippiechick

Location: topsy turvy land Gender:  
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Apr 26, 2012 - 9:24am |
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DaveInVA wrote: It does say that many that didn't pay any income taxes still claimed the refund. And many don't file at all..And its beyond broken.
How do you get a refund if you don't pay in? The refurn is for overpaying, right?
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DaveInSaoMiguel

Location: No longer in a hovel in effluent Damnville, VA Gender:  
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Apr 26, 2012 - 9:22am |
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cc_rider wrote:Interesting.
1) So illegal workers actually DO pay taxes on their income. Plus sales tax on their purchases, et al. Kinda shoots a hole in THAT talking point.
2) The law is vague and apparently unenforced. Whose fault is that? Not really the ditch-digger's problem, he's trying to work the system just like everybody else.
3) The problem should be fixed, absolutely.
4) $4.2B into the estimated 12 million illegal workers comes out to about $350/person. I've seen the jobs those folks do, I find it pretty difficult to begrudge them that.
We have two big problems contributing here: 1) Our tax system is hopelessly complex.
2) Our immigration policy, even our very borders, are a patchwork, and loosely enforced if at all.
It does say that many that didn't pay any income taxes still claimed the refund. And many don't file at all to pay taxes..And its beyond broken.
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