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Posted: Aug 26, 2010 - 4:15pm

 planet_lizard wrote:

OK - let's change that to 'non-classical songs' - he's a classical music listener and dismisses all else. I have no problem with 4/4 at all, but one of his reasons for not liking non-classical music is "it's all in 4/4" (and yes he & I both know it's a generalisation).

If you like let's widen the request to any music that is good to play to someone who only listens to classical music to convince them that there is decent non-classical music out there!
 
Ahhhhh...

He needs to hear (albums):
Time Further Out - Dave Brubeck
Soft Machiine - Third
National Health - Of Ques and Cures
Yes - Close To The Edge
Reniasance - Live at Carnegie Hall
Frank Zappa/ The Mothers:
  Burnt Weenie Sanwich
  Waka/Jawaka
  The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life
 
 
 
 


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Posted: Aug 26, 2010 - 4:10pm

 beamends wrote:
Pink Floyd's 'Money' - the bars alternate between 3/4 and 4/4

  

Technically it's 7/4, except for the bridge/guitar solo, which is in 4/4

Others:
Yes -  The Fish (7/8)
Soundgarden - Spoonman (7/8)
Jethro Tull - Living In The Past (5/4)
Grateful Dead - The Eleven (11/8)
Pat Metheny Group - The First Circle (22/8)


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Posted: Aug 26, 2010 - 3:00pm

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I perfectly know that you're trying to make me believe we're talking in "Tomato Gardens". Wikipedant defines Capt. Beefheart as follows : Experimental rock, blues-rock, psychedelic rock, progressive rock, protopunk, outsider. What's abnormal... oh wait.
 
Don't get me wrong. I love the guy. He's a through & through genius but I'd hardly call him easy listening.





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Posted: Aug 26, 2010 - 2:30pm

 planet_lizard wrote:

OK - let's change that to 'non-classical songs' - he's a classical music listener and dismisses all else. I have no problem with 4/4 at all, but one of his reasons for not liking non-classical music is "it's all in 4/4" (and yes he & I both know it's a generalisation).

If you like let's widen the request to any music that is good to play to someone who only listens to classical music to convince them that there is decent non-classical music out there!
 
Now that's a challenge! If you ignore all the issues surrounding lyrics and such, which don't really feature in classical music unless you include operetta, and are purely looking at the way the music is constructed. That would suggest prog-rock, or someone like Pink Floyd and such which are more than verse-chorus-verse-chorus-middle 8-verse-chours-ad-infinitum. Personally I'd go for Floyd from Dark Side Of The Moon onwards, but I am severely biased, there are many alternatives!

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Posted: Aug 26, 2010 - 2:24pm

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Does your friend listen to jazz ? Or does he consider jazz as classical music ? I'm afraid this wittypedia link only will suggest that there are many more classical music titles than "pop songs". So maybe you could copy the list and delete all that could look regularly classical to your friend. {#Lol}

@nuggz : And stop being stubborn, young man. {#Whipit}
 
What ? The only classification I can think up for Beefheart is......abnormal.

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Posted: Aug 26, 2010 - 2:17pm

 planet_lizard wrote:

OK - let's change that to 'non-classical songs' - he's a classical music listener and dismisses all else. I have no problem with 4/4 at all, but one of his reasons for not liking non-classical music is "it's all in 4/4" (and yes he & I both know it's a generalisation).

If you like let's widen the request to any music that is good to play to someone who only listens to classical music to convince them that there is decent non-classical music out there!

 
Does your friend listen to jazz ? Or does he consider jazz as classical music ? I'm afraid this wittypedia link only will suggest that there are many more classical music titles than "pop songs". So maybe you could copy the list and delete all that could look regularly classical to your friend, then show him... {#Lol}

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Posted: Aug 26, 2010 - 2:16pm

 planet_lizard wrote:

OK - let's change that to 'non-classical songs' - he's a classical music listener and dismisses all else. I have no problem with 4/4 at all, but one of his reasons for not liking non-classical music is "it's all in 4/4" (and yes he & I both know it's a generalisation).

If you like let's widen the request to any music that is good to play to someone who only listens to classical music to convince them that there is decent non-classical music out there!
 
Er....then I wouldn't suggest Captain Beefheart. {#Snooty}

But I would definitely recommend Mahavishnu Orchestra for someone who likes classical.

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Posted: Aug 26, 2010 - 2:03pm

 kopak wrote:
What do you call pop songs, and what's the problem with 4/4 ?

 
OK - let's change that to 'non-classical songs' - he's a classical music listener and dismisses all else. I have no problem with 4/4 at all, but one of his reasons for not liking non-classical music is "it's all in 4/4" (and yes he & I both know it's a generalisation).

If you like let's widen the request to any music that is good to play to someone who only listens to classical music to convince them that there is decent non-classical music out there!

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Posted: Aug 26, 2010 - 1:59pm

Blimey - you guys are fast! I only posted an hour ago. Much appreciated - keep 'em coming!!!!
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Posted: Aug 26, 2010 - 1:25pm

Pink Floyd's 'Money' - the bars alternate between 3/4 and 4/4
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Posted: Aug 26, 2010 - 1:24pm

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Come on...Dancin' Fool
 
Lookin' for Mister Goodbar? Here he is . . .
Wait a minute . . . I've got it . . . you're an Italian!
(Ki-ni-shinai!)
Hah?
Yer Jewish?
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You must be a Libra . . .
Your place or mine?


Right. Lyrics like that will make you real popular around here  {#Rolleyes}


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Posted: Aug 26, 2010 - 1:18pm

 Southern_Boy wrote:

Is that the same as 1-3/4?
 

Maybe, or July 4th.
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Posted: Aug 26, 2010 - 1:16pm

 BillJ wrote:

The verses in "All You Need is Love" are sung in 7/4. (also from wiki)


 
Is that the same as 1-3/4?

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Posted: Aug 26, 2010 - 1:15pm

 JrzyTmata wrote:
the wiki article that randy posted had some pop songs.

Beatles - Here Comes the Sun
Dionne Warwick - I Say a Little Prayer
Outkast - Hey Ya

 

The verses in "All You Need is Love" are sung in 7/4. (also from wiki)



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Posted: Aug 26, 2010 - 1:12pm

 JrzyTmata wrote:

details details

neither is zappa, beefheart, king crimson, etc.
 
Come on...Dancin' Fool

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Posted: Aug 26, 2010 - 1:11pm

the wiki article that randy posted had some pop songs.

Beatles - Here Comes the Sun
Dionne Warwick - I Say a Little Prayer
Outkast - Hey Ya
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Posted: Aug 26, 2010 - 1:07pm

 Southern_Boy wrote:

Hardly pop.
 
details details

neither is zappa, beefheart, king crimson, etc.

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Posted: Aug 26, 2010 - 1:05pm

 JrzyTmata wrote:
Little Feat.

 
Hardly pop.

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Posted: Aug 26, 2010 - 1:02pm

Little Feat.
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Posted: Aug 26, 2010 - 12:49pm

 planet_lizard wrote:
I'm helping to compile a list of songs with unusual time signatures in order to convince a friend who thinks that 'all pop music is in 4/4' otherwise.

Any suggestions?

 

King Crimson was a good call, also try Bill Bruford, Frank Zappa, or Allan Holdsworth

edit: Re-read...."pop"...Ok....how about Jamiroquai?!


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