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swell_sailor

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Posted: Aug 21, 2010 - 9:26am

 DaveInVA wrote:
These are the 2 units I am messing with now on my home "office" system. I just sold the Sony TA-1130 I'd been using and now I am trying to decide which one of these 2 units to keep.



Its a Sherwood S5000 tube integrated from 1957. Sounds great and has an excellent phono preamp. Has a whopping 20 wpc RMS but my DCM Time Windows are pretty efficient so its not a problem.



This is whats playing right now. A Sony STR-7055 solid state receiver with FET circuitry in the preamp and amp. This was 2nd down from TOTL and has 55 wpc RMS and has the same amp section as the TA-1130 I just sold. Has a very dynamic and clean sounding phono preamp.
  I've been meaning to ask you about your ebay auctions. I might need some new/old gear.


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Posted: Aug 21, 2010 - 9:22am

 DaveInVA wrote:
These are the 2 units I am messing with now on my home "office" system. I just sold the Sony TA-1130 I'd been using and now I am trying to decide which one of these 2 units to keep.



Its a Sherwood S5000 tube integrated from 1957. Sounds great and has an excellent phono preamp. Has a whopping 20 wpc RMS but my DCM Time Windows are pretty efficient so its not a problem.



This is whats playing right now. A Sony STR-7055 solid state receiver with FET circuitry in the preamp and amp. This was 2nd down from TOTL and has 55 wpc RMS and has the same amp section as the TA-1130 I just sold. Has a very dynamic and clean sounding phono preamp.

 
I'm currently using a Sansui receiver I bought on fleabay several years ago for $40.  I was amazed when it arrived, it was in perfect condition - not even a light bulb burned out.

Buried in a closet are a Marantz amplifier and another Sansui receiver I just can't bring myself to part with.  They're all massively heavy boat anchors but I dig 'em.

DaveInSaoMiguel

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Posted: Aug 21, 2010 - 9:12am

These are the 2 units I am messing with now on my home "office" system. I just sold the Sony TA-1130 I'd been using and now I am trying to decide which one of these 2 units to keep.



Its a Sherwood S5000 tube integrated from 1957. Sounds great and has an excellent phono preamp. Has a whopping 20 wpc RMS but my DCM Time Windows are pretty efficient so its not a problem.



This is whats playing right now. A Sony STR-7055 solid state receiver with FET circuitry in the preamp and amp. This was 2nd down from TOTL and has 55 wpc RMS and has the same amp section as the TA-1130 I just sold. Has a very dynamic and clean sounding phono preamp.
swell_sailor

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Posted: Aug 21, 2010 - 9:02am

Now that I think about it, none of the inputs work other than tape monitor, which is not on the selector switch. It's obviously the switch. I'll get on that.

Wahoo! I just got authorization to bring it into the house and add it to the rack, replacing a 20 year old Kenwood, for powering the speakers on the back deck and front porch. I haven't seen meters moving in my house in a long time. Out with the black plastic. This is going to be fun! 


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Posted: Aug 21, 2010 - 8:52am

 DaveInVA wrote:

That was their first TOTL receiver after moving overseas. The S-8900 was the last US built Sherwood. It does have a MC Phono input which is nice. I have found however that a lot of pre amps and receivers from this period don't seem to have the best sounding phono pre-amps as if they already felt lp's were on the way out and didn't care anymore. A friend has the big Sansui 9090 receiver from that period and it has one of the worst sounding phono preamps I ever heard in it though the amp section sounds very nice.
 
I had an 8080 in the 70's. I loved that thing. My brother had the 9090. I never did get a separate phono-amp for it before life forced me to sell it. The day it left was a very dark day. I always regretted getting rid of it. 

If/when I run some vinyl through the Sherwood I'll be sure to use one of my phono amps. 


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Posted: Aug 21, 2010 - 8:42am

 swell_sailor wrote:

That's what I suspected. I'll have a go at it one of these days. Some day when my wife is away I'm going to swap it out with my amp in my main system and give it a spin. 

This unit was originally purchased by my wife's brother, who gave it to her 20 years ago. She had it plugged into some cheapo bookshelf speakers for years. It really rocks the garage, but the garage speakers don't do it justice and I only have itunes as the source out there. It needs to see some vinyl. 

 
That was their first TOTL receiver after moving overseas. The S-8900 was the last US built Sherwood. It does have a MC Phono input which is nice. I have found however that a lot of pre amps and receivers from this period don't seem to have the best sounding phono pre-amps as if they already felt lp's were on the way out and didn't care anymore. A friend has the big Sansui 9090 receiver from that period and it has one of the worst sounding phono preamps I ever heard in it though the amp section sounds very nice.


swell_sailor

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Posted: Aug 21, 2010 - 8:34am

 DaveInVA wrote:

The input problem may be as simple as tarnished contacts on the selector switch and may be fixable with some contact cleaner.
 
That's what I suspected. I'll have a go at it one of these days. Some day when my wife is away I'm going to swap it out with my amp in my main system and give it a spin. 

This unit was originally purchased by my wife's brother, who gave it to her 20 years ago. She had it plugged into some cheapo bookshelf speakers for years. It really rocks the garage, but the garage speakers don't do it justice and I only have itunes as the source out there. It needs to see some vinyl. 
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Posted: Aug 21, 2010 - 8:34am

 DaveInVA wrote:

My Homely Theater is 7.1 but I've never tried playing it there yet. I've just been playing the stereo mix off the DVD-A on my Denon 2910 on my stereo.
  Right..7.1 my next amp, have the speakers in place already !


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Posted: Aug 21, 2010 - 8:28am

 HazzeSwede wrote:

You have a 5.1 set up ?

Still remember my first listen to it, in 5.1,like old times when one was rushing home with the new Beatles singel and it took 5 straight times playing it, just to get down to regular heart beat !{#Smile} And the heart beat not acquired from the running.{#Wink}

 
My Homely Theater is 7.1 but I've never tried playing it there yet. I've just been playing the stereo mix off the DVD-A on my Denon 2910 on my stereo.

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Posted: Aug 21, 2010 - 8:26am

 swell_sailor wrote:

I need to move it into the house then. Maybe I can find a place for it in my office, and maybe I can find an inexpensive turntable that I can trust with my vinyl so I can really hear it. 

 
The input problem may be as simple as tarnished contacts on the selector switch and may be fixable with some contact cleaner.

HazzeSwede

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Posted: Aug 21, 2010 - 8:24am

 DaveInVA wrote:

I have the Beatles Love that has a regular CD and a 5.1/stereo DVD-A. The sound quality is kick-ass but I still don't like the way some of the songs are "butchered" but its still very enjoyable.
 
You have a 5.1 set up ?

Still remember my first listen to it, in 5.1,like old times when one was rushing home with the new Beatles singel and it took 5 straight times playing it, just to get down to regular heart beat !{#Smile} And the heart beat not acquired from the running.{#Wink}
swell_sailor

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Posted: Aug 21, 2010 - 8:21am

 DaveInVA wrote:

The S-9910 was their top of the line model conservatively rated at 100 wpc. It has an MSRP of $725 and used they go $300 ish. Very nice sounding receiver and worth fixing.
I have a 1957 Sherwood S5000 tube integrated and after owning dozens of tube integrated amps from the era I think its one of the best sounding and its also a good buy because it doesn't sell for near as much as the equivalent Scotts, Fishers etc that don't sound any better. The Sherwoods were still made in Chicago then and the output transformers where made by Chicago Transformer  and very high quality.
 
I need to move it into the house then. Maybe I can find a place for it in my office, and maybe I can find an inexpensive turntable that I can trust with my vinyl so I can really hear it. 
DaveInSaoMiguel

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Posted: Aug 21, 2010 - 8:03am

 swell_sailor wrote:

They turned to cheap crap eventually, like so many. But I've heard this vintage was pretty nice stuff. It's certainly heavy enough! And it's beautiful to look at.

 
Yes like most the other big names they all switched to overseas construction in the 70's unfortunately.

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Posted: Aug 21, 2010 - 8:02am

 swell_sailor wrote:
Hey Dave, what do you know about the old Sherwoods? I have an S-9910. It's the garage tunes. It really hasn't been tested since I've owned it. I've heard it has a reputation of having a tube amp sound. To me it looks like stereo gear is supposed to look. The reason I ask is because some of the inputs no longer work. It's needs a good cleaning. I'm wondering if it's worth it. 

 
The S-9910 was their top of the line model conservatively rated at 100 wpc. It has an MSRP of $725 and used they go $300 ish. Very nice sounding receiver and worth fixing.
I have a 1957 Sherwood S5000 tube integrated and after owning dozens of tube integrated amps from the era I think its one of the best sounding and its also a good buy because it doesn't sell for near as much as the equivalent Scotts, Fishers etc that don't sound any better. The Sherwoods were still made in Chicago then and the output transformers where made by Chicago Transformer  and very high quality.

swell_sailor

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Posted: Aug 21, 2010 - 7:59am

 ptooey wrote:

I'm nowhere near an expert, but my dad had a Sherwood...7050, I think.  It always struck me as fairly decent gear.
 
They turned to cheap crap eventually, like so many. But I've heard this vintage was pretty nice stuff. It's certainly heavy enough! And it's beautiful to look at.


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Posted: Aug 21, 2010 - 7:58am

 HazzeSwede wrote:
I have the "Beatles" Love DVD, one of my 5.1 ones.
 It does sound nice !

 
I have the Beatles Love that has a regular CD and a 5.1/stereo DVD-A. The sound quality is kick-ass but I still don't like the way some of the songs are "butchered" but its still very enjoyable.

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Posted: Aug 21, 2010 - 7:57am

 swell_sailor wrote:
Hey Dave, what do you know about the old Sherwoods? I have an S-9910. It's the garage tunes. It really hasn't been tested since I've owned it. I've heard it has a reputation of having a tube amp sound. To me it looks like stereo gear is supposed to look. The reason I ask is because some of the inputs no longer work. It's needs a good cleaning. I'm wondering if it's worth it. 

 
I'm nowhere near an expert, but my dad had a Sherwood...7050, I think.  It always struck me as fairly decent gear.

Edit - Was wrong, his was the 7100A.  Still...probably worth going after it with some Deoxit.


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Posted: Aug 21, 2010 - 7:54am

 swell_sailor wrote:

Right. As you know, sometimes they stick audio only on the DVD Video format, at 24/96. That's not bad, but I don't really need that. Since it's video, I really need it.

  I have the "Beatles" Love DVD, one of my 5.1 ones.
 It does sound nice !


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Posted: Aug 21, 2010 - 7:53am

Hey Dave, what do you know about the old Sherwoods? I have an S-9910. It's the garage tunes. It really hasn't been tested since I've owned it. I've heard it has a reputation of having a tube amp sound. To me it looks like stereo gear is supposed to look. The reason I ask is because some of the inputs no longer work. It's needs a good cleaning. I'm wondering if it's worth it. 
DaveInSaoMiguel

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Posted: Aug 21, 2010 - 7:51am

Bill must have been monitoring this thread as they are playing Neil Young right now and off the LP I posted last {#Mrgreen}


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