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MrsHobieJoe

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Posted: May 12, 2010 - 9:40am

 Inamorato wrote:

The Tory/LibDem coalition might not be such a bad thing. The Conservatives rightly will have the most clout but the LDs might temper the more Thatcherite elements of the right wing and will also have a platform from which to influence the government toward some of their core principles. It will be interesting to see how the LDs handle not being merely a protest party but part of a ruling coalition. Let's hope the alliance holds up long enough for some important work to get done before Cameron blames the LDs for uncooperativeness and calls a new election when he thinks he can get a Tory majority.



 
They are planning to introduce fixed term parliaments of 5 years so could well be the case that the highlighted bit isn't possible.

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Posted: May 12, 2010 - 6:09am

The Tory/LibDem coalition might not be such a bad thing. The Conservatives rightly will have the most clout but the LDs might temper the more Thatcherite elements of the right wing and will also have a platform from which to influence the government toward some of their core principles. It will be interesting to see how the LDs handle not being merely a protest party but part of a ruling coalition. Let's hope the alliance holds up long enough for some important work to get done before Cameron blames the LDs for uncooperativeness and calls a new election when he thinks he can get a Tory majority.


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Posted: May 12, 2010 - 4:18am

 jools wrote:

Oh - how does that work?!  

 

Last night- not well.  We're not a million miles apart (I'm mostly LD, he's mostly L) but we both have quite strong views.


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Posted: May 12, 2010 - 3:42am

So let's get this right. Lib dems said they would never form a coalition if the electoral reform and Trident weren't a done deal. Well they haven't got the trident deal, nothing even close a trident deal and they have got some sort of electoral reform but nothing even close to what they wanted.This is what they got 'There will be a referendum on scrapping Britain's first-past-the-post voting system in favour of the Alternative Vote method before the next general election - even though the Conservatives are likely to campaign against any voting change.'

Totally shafted up the back passage!

However, they have agreed to a five year minimum term for parliament (meaning the next election will not be until 2015), Oh how very handy!
Oh and Nick Clegg (lib dem leader) is now the DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER! As i say, shafted!
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Posted: May 12, 2010 - 2:52am

 MrsHobieJoe wrote:


OK

Jools- HJ and I may be living in the same house but we have different political views!
 
Oh - how does that work?!  
NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: May 12, 2010 - 1:17am

OK, so when's the election then?
MrsHobieJoe

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Posted: May 11, 2010 - 12:40pm

 geordiezimmerman wrote:

I'll take that bet.
 

OK

Jools- HJ and I may be living in the same house but we have different political views!
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Posted: May 11, 2010 - 12:27pm

 hippiechick wrote:

That's cuz we Merkins don't know nuthin cept we think we know it all about Merkin politics
 


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Posted: May 11, 2010 - 12:25pm

 jools wrote:
Erm Just realised that there are only really 4 of us on this topic and 2 of them seem to be related.....we need to get out more.....

 
That's cuz we Merkins don't know nuthin cept Merkin politics

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Posted: May 11, 2010 - 12:23pm

Erm Just realised that there are only really 4 of us on this topic and 2 of them seem to be related.....we need to get out more.....
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Posted: May 11, 2010 - 12:22pm

 geordiezimmerman wrote:

I'll take that bet.
 
Let's hope that it will be in about a year when they have truly screwed up and Clegg and Co will be truly discredited.  
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Posted: May 11, 2010 - 12:14pm

 MrsHobieJoe wrote:


I'll lay you a fiver that if there is another election in the next few months there'll be a Tory landslide- and that I really don't want to see.

 
I'll take that bet.

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Posted: May 11, 2010 - 12:14pm

Ed Balls (lab) on tv now, and I quote - "When lib dems spoke with us they made it clear that they were siding with the tories, talking to us was just a formality"

So there you go. Clegg had no intention of forming a coalition with Labour. Also by forming a coalition with the tories he has just destroyed his own party, they've become in a matter of days the party to vote for for positive change, to the party that you cannot trust. Oh dear.


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Posted: May 11, 2010 - 12:12pm

 geordiezimmerman wrote:

I'm still hoping there is no coalition whch means the tories get power with a minority meaning there will be another elction within months no motions will go through the house. When and if that happens hopefully those that swung to the libs this time will come back to Labour and they win. It's also possible that there could be another hung parliament (dont think i could take it) but with a new Labour leader a coalition with the libs could be done. Saying that, it's the old Blairites in the Labour party that scuppered the talks this time, people like Blunkett, Reid, Diana Johnson and others. Shocking example of loyalty that is, shocking.
 

I'll lay you a fiver that if there is another election in the next few months there'll be a Tory landslide- and that I really don't want to see.
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Posted: May 11, 2010 - 12:10pm

Oh dear it was all so sad.  I even cried a bit when I watched the resignation speech... Still roll on the new leader elections so we can get the Other David in.....
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Posted: May 11, 2010 - 12:09pm

 geordiezimmerman wrote:

I'm still hoping there is no coalition whch means the tories get power with a minority meaning there will be another elction within months no motions will go through the house. When and if that happens hopefully those that swung to the libs this time will come back to Labour and they win. It's also possible that there could be another hung parliament (dont think i could take it) but with a new Labour leader a coalition with the libs could be done. Saying that, it's the old Blairites in the Labour party that scuppered the talks this time, people like Blunkett, Reid, Diana Johnson and others. Shocking example of loyalty that is, shocking.


 
I find myself shockingly shocked.

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Posted: May 11, 2010 - 12:02pm

 MrsHobieJoe wrote:


Yeah- they will.

Nick Robinson "Cameron is a student of Disraeli".  We will see.

 
I'm still hoping there is no coalition whch means the tories get power with a minority meaning there will be another elction within months no motions will go through the house. When and if that happens hopefully those that swung to the libs this time will come back to Labour and they win. It's also possible that there could be another hung parliament (dont think i could take it) but with a new Labour leader a coalition with the libs could be done. Saying that, it's the old Blairites in the Labour party that scuppered the talks this time, people like Blunkett, Reid, Diana Johnson and others. Shocking example of loyalty that is, shocking.

MrsHobieJoe

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Posted: May 11, 2010 - 11:57am

 geordiezimmerman wrote:

No such thing. They will bully the hell out of the few lib dems they will have on their side (if they form a coalition)

Dark days are here.
 

Yeah- they will.

Nick Robinson "Cameron is a student of Disraeli".  We will see.
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Posted: May 11, 2010 - 11:55am

 MrsHobieJoe wrote:


Should be a softer Tory government with the more right wing excesses curbed.  (I hope).  EDIT: Tory Lite rather than Tory Right.

Well- Gordon is off to see the Queen and resign.  Dave will be PM in an hour- with or without the LibDems.

 
No such thing. They will bully the hell out of the few lib dems they will have on their side (if they form a coalition)



Dark days are here.

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Posted: May 11, 2010 - 11:27am

 geordiezimmerman wrote:

Lib dems are now resuming talks with the tories. They've obviously spoken with Labour now so this is either to say to the tories, Thanks but no thanks or we're with you. My gut instinct tells me it's going to to be the latter. They are resuming talks as I speak, it's live on bbc news 24.

Oh God, this doesn't look good.
 

Should be a softer Tory government with the more right wing excesses curbed.  (I hope).  EDIT: Tory Lite rather than Tory Right.

Well- Gordon is off to see the Queen and resign.  Dave will be PM in an hour- with or without the LibDems.


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