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MrsHobieJoe

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Posted: Aug 25, 2009 - 8:12am

 Beaker wrote:

Does Brandon embarrass you? 

Nope, you on the other hand irritate me but I forbear. 

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Posted: Aug 25, 2009 - 8:09am

 hippiechick wrote:

Actually, churches are forbidden from taking political opinions to the pulpit, or they jeopardize their tax exempt status, but it doesn't seem to be enforced. Esp during the Bush administration, it actually was encouraged.

The reason that there are not really any Left Wing nuts is that most of the Left don't have that kind of personality. In general they believe in peace, love and inclusion, not hatred, exclusion and violence, although I am sure there are exceptions, such as Rev Wright.

Never once did I wish anyone in the Bush Administration any harm. For one thing, if something happened to W, the Dick would REALLY be in charge, and that would have been much worse.
 
what a load of shit. so much for not hating and inclusion on your part.

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Posted: Aug 25, 2009 - 8:02am

Could we please just let this thread die? 

Brandog- would you be an angel and just change the thread title to a space or a full stop or something and then let it drop off the thread? 


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Posted: Aug 25, 2009 - 8:00am

 Beaker wrote:

Politics doesn't belong on the pulpit — ever.  IMO.  And death threats against a POTUS should be dealt with appropriately, no matter what the source.  If you are going to hold pastors to a higher standard, then what say you about Rev. Jeremiah Wright and your POTUS who sat in his congregation for YEARS, yet claims he had no idea what that guy was preaching from his pulpit. 

Whup, did I just unearth another double standard?  Say it ain't so.
 
Actually, churches are forbidden from taking political opinions to the pulpit, or they jeopardize their tax exempt status, but it doesn't seem to be enforced. Esp during the Bush administration, it actually was encouraged.

The reason that there are not really any Left Wing nuts is that most of the Left don't have that kind of personality. In general they believe in peace, love and inclusion, not hatred, exclusion and violence, although I am sure there are exceptions, such as Rev Wright.

Never once did I wish anyone in the Bush Administration any harm. For one thing, if something happened to W, the Dick would REALLY be in charge, and that would have been much worse.

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Posted: Aug 25, 2009 - 7:55am

 samiyam wrote:
Can't we all just get a bong?

 
If I did a bonghit my head would explode - Oh, crap I have to go puree another lemon

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Posted: Aug 25, 2009 - 7:53am

Can't we all just get a bong?
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Posted: Aug 25, 2009 - 7:29am

 Beaker wrote:

So who is rushing to his defense ShamWow?  Anyone here?  Do tell.
 
OH, there's you, and probably the KKK, you know, people like you.

And, I can say the above without even feeling a little bit bad about it  - you've been around here long enough - I've read your opinions on race, disability, gender, immigration, etc., - IMO you are one of the most inhumane, heartless people I never ever want to meet.

Expression of opinion is a good thing - differing opinions create new matrices of ideas BUT, when you start supporting terrorism, Trevor, you become a terrorist.  But, in your case, that's sort of OK; at least we know you're sitting on your ass somewhere making useless noise, and not actually killing people.

Defending that man by saying "Well, people threatened The Shrub so, it's OK to pray for Obama to die and go to Hell."  is fallacious - how do you think Jesus would consider your attitude?  I don't even care that he prays to some nonexistent God to kill somebody - it's that he's using a satellite soapbox and trying to activate some knucklehead(s) out there to "Do God's Work."  Same as it ever was...

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Posted: Aug 25, 2009 - 12:13am

 winter wrote:


That said, it's a little storefront church. Send ten reporters and you've probably doubled their attendance. Doesn't justify hateful behavior, but even here they're getting more attention than they deserve.

You can walk down the street in any major city and hear whackaloons preaching about the Illuminati or the CFR or the leprechaun-unicorn cabal controlling the world. We don't make a big deal about it. We don't pretend they're any part of the political process. They have a right to their free speech, however irrational or ridiculous or offensive. And we have every right to ignore them as irrelevant crackpots.
 
thank you..

i was making a ref to the rev wright thing..

if you want to get attention....say something outrageous....no matter how rural or provincial...
tempe ain't chicago...

way to go msnbc....dropped the ball a bit on rev wright.

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Posted: Aug 24, 2009 - 11:41pm

 Beaker wrote:

Hey speaking your hypocrisy, tell me, because I'm too lazy to look, have you been weighing in one the health care debate here?  Yes? No?

If yes, could you explain your trips to Mexico seeking medical care?  After explaining away that, which I'm sure I already have your answer on, please confirm that you would avow to use only the new, much more affordable public health system proposed under ObamaCare - and that you would affirm you would never again travel to Mexico in search of lower cost providers - even if you know they are there.

If no, explain why not.
Translation: Let's see if I can divert the topic by pointing fingers at the person who brought up my own hypocrisy.

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Posted: Aug 24, 2009 - 11:40pm

 winter wrote:

Not exactly a small town: it's a suburb of Phoenix with over 100,000 residents, and it's home to Arizona State University.

That said, it's a little storefront church. Send ten reporters and you've probably doubled their attendance. Doesn't justify hateful behavior, but even here they're getting more attention than they deserve.

You can walk down the street in any major city and hear whackaloons preaching about the Illuminati or the CFR or the leprechaun-unicorn cabal controlling the world. We don't make a big deal about it. We don't pretend they're any part of the political process. They have a right to their free speech, however irrational or ridiculous or offensive. And we have every right to ignore them as irrelevant crackpots. 

 

{#Whisper}Don't even joke about that man...They are out there and they are watching...
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Posted: Aug 24, 2009 - 11:40pm

 Beaker wrote:

Really.  That's a mighty high bar.

Perhaps you should have a look at this video.   See any hatred being preached from the pulpit there?  Yes? No?
 
Beaker, I'm an atheist preacher's kid. The church I grew up in was nothing like what is shown on TV. I don't have the patience to watch preachers now. I watched the clip of Jeremiah Wright. Some of what he said is out there (the government knew about Pearl Harbor?) but some of it isn't (Uh, Tuskegee??) and I have to say that a lot of what Wright said isn't that far off-base. I watched the video three times. Take the delivery as you will; it is charismatic. The pastor who prayed for Obama's death is probably a charismatic speaker too.

I think I'll stop here. It's late, and Jonesy is trying to sit on the laptop. Go ahead and shoot down everything I've said. Good night.

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Posted: Aug 24, 2009 - 11:35pm

 arsenault wrote:

he would have been fine if he had said 'god damn america'
plus, how far did they have to go to find him?...tempe arizona?..not chicago illinois..
 
Not exactly a small town: it's a suburb of Phoenix with over 100,000 residents, and it's home to Arizona State University.

That said, it's a little storefront church. Send ten reporters and you've probably doubled their attendance. Doesn't justify hateful behavior, but even here they're getting more attention than they deserve.

You can walk down the street in any major city and hear whackaloons preaching about the Illuminati or the CFR or the leprechaun-unicorn cabal controlling the world. We don't make a big deal about it. We don't pretend they're any part of the political process. They have a right to their free speech, however irrational or ridiculous or offensive. And we have every right to ignore them as irrelevant crackpots. 
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Posted: Aug 24, 2009 - 11:27pm

 zipper wrote:

wow, the nutroots would never do something like that regarding the leader of the free world. {#Lol}

 
he would have been fine if he had said 'god damn america'
plus, how far did they have to go to find him?...tempe arizona?..not chicago illinois..

jadewahoo

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Posted: Aug 24, 2009 - 11:25pm

 Beaker wrote:

Hey ShamWow ... is that thread active?  Am I continuing to post in it?  Do you know when that thread was created and why?

Just like your baseless example above, you're nothing but a fraud.  Google it.
 
Let me count the ways in which hypocrisy can be justified...

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Posted: Aug 24, 2009 - 11:16pm

 Beaker wrote:

Did it occur to you that Brandon started this thread and chooses to perpetuate the hate by keeping the thread alive with periodic posts?

Take the matter up with the thread creator who insists upon posting this inciting crap.
 
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Posted: Aug 24, 2009 - 11:15pm

 Beaker wrote:

Politics doesn't belong on the pulpit — ever.  IMO.  And death threats against a POTUS should be dealt with appropriately, no matter what the source.  If you are going to hold pastors to a higher standard, then what say you about Rev. Jeremiah Wright and your POTUS who sat in his congregation for YEARS, yet claims he had no idea what that guy was preaching from his pulpit. 

Whup, did I just unearth another double standard?  Say it ain't so.
 
No, you didn't. I've never heard Jeremiah Wright preach, but as far as I know, he didn't call for the death of George W. Bush. As for the rest of of it, I'm going to claim ignorance. YES. Ignorance. Just as I didn't care what John McCain's, or in the past, John Kerry's, or G.W. Bush's, or Al Gore's, or (insert any former candidate for president) 's pastor said, I don't really care what Barack Obama's pastor said.

No, really. I don't care.

Double standard? Maybe. Perhaps I only wake up when a pastor wishes for the death of another human being (how Christian!).

jadewahoo

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Posted: Aug 24, 2009 - 11:05pm

 Beaker wrote:

So who is rushing to his defense ShamWow?  Anyone here?  Do tell.
 
Hey muppet! {#Wave}Howzit hangin'?

jadewahoo

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Posted: Aug 24, 2009 - 11:01pm

 Beaker wrote:

Did it occur to you that Brandon started this thread and chooses to perpetuate the hate by keeping the thread alive with periodic posts?

Take the matter up with the thread creator who insists upon posting this inciting crap.
 
If your buddies didn't spew forth this kind of Hate, it wouldn't be available to post.

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Posted: Aug 24, 2009 - 11:00pm

 Beaker wrote:

Are pastors special? Do their prayers for the death of a sitting POTUS somehow mean more than just run of the mill death threats ... like say these:

Oregon Peaceniks Call For Bush’s “Execution”

Death Threats Against Bush at Protests Ignored for Years


Right.  Pastors are different.  Because they prove how far right the kooks are in the Rep party right?

And these other examples of far-lefties and their screeching is an example of what?  Modern progressive liberalism?
 
Pastors are different when they bring politics to the pulpit. Forgive me for holding pastors to a higher standard.

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Posted: Aug 24, 2009 - 10:59pm

 brandog wrote:
The radical right is looking for a "spark"

Pastor Steve Anderson is a Hater. 
Those who rush to his defense are, likewise, Haters.
Look around, there are Haters everywhere.


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