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samiyam

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Posted: Aug 27, 2009 - 10:54am

 owld_skipper wrote:
 hippiechick wrote:

Well, then why don't we play 

"What do you think of Owld Skipper?" 


Talking about people, esp when they are not even present, is gossip. 


Why not?

Be my guest, have at it.

I hardly think what I posted was gossip. I told a true story and made a comment that was germane to what was happening in here.

Now, I shall leave so you can all talk about me. Feel free to say whatever the freck you want. Have to go, romeotuna is on his way in to wash HC's feet.


 
  When you come back, bring a few Molson's whydonja eh?

samiyam

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Posted: Aug 27, 2009 - 10:53am

 Atman wrote:

I'm sorry if you thought I was angry. i was just being a little picky about the 'attacking inappropriately' statement. Meaning, no attack is appropriate...

And I'm giving you a pass on whatever you say because of your splendid writing.

No anger.
 
I agree, there is no such thing as an appropriate attack.  Beaker is wrong if he does that...  There... that being said... can we have a few beers and forget about it?

I think there's a rugby game on international sports...

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Posted: Aug 27, 2009 - 10:51am

 zipper wrote:

Thankfully, the Beak is resilient enough to withstand the barbs cast his way. He is one of the few vocal conservatives at RP. The prevalence of the liberal viewpoint has sadly alienated many conservatives from RP. The love of music is universal and it draws people from every political stance. I'm more conservative than he is, and had I not made in-person friendships with members of the community, I would be long gone from here solely because of the widespread cheap shots taken at my own party's expense. Some days, I'm still tempted to wash my hands of the place, a la nook. What's worse than the community suffering from the dearth of a conservative voice is that B&R's efforts suffer from the loss of support, both financially and socially spreading the word.

Never assume that everyone anyone here agrees with your opinion. I certainly don't.

 
Speaking solely for myself, which is all I have ever done, criticisms notwithstanding, I do not find Beaker's politics to be the issue... indeed,  I find his politics to be a bit too left wing for my taste. My umbrage is with his behavior. Covert threats, demeaning with name calling and insults to those with whom he feels are 'against him' politically, his arrogant attitude of self-righteousness... I could go on and on, but many others here, have, over time, addressed these apsects of his self-isolation from this community. Kindness is not a word one thinks of in the same sentence when considering Beaker a la his posts here in RP. I would expect, actually, that in real life he is probably a fine person and that he is just using this arena to channel his vinegar and spit. And, as might be expected, when you mix vinegar with baking soda, you get  lot of froth. I know I have frothed at the dude, even recently. But even though he continues to pour more vinegar upon the soda, it is long since spent of its reactivity, no longer froths, then he goes to find someone else upon whom to spit his venom.
I kinda like the guy myself, but please don't tell him that. He might find it embarrassing.

hippiechick

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Posted: Aug 27, 2009 - 10:51am

 zipper wrote:

Which part of my words do you read as my speaking for Beak?
On what planet do you spend most of your time? etc. {#Lol}
 
Thankfully, the Beak is resilient enough to withstand the barbs cast his way

Thankfully, not the same one as you
winter

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Posted: Aug 27, 2009 - 10:50am

 zipper wrote:

Thanks, B. I think it's proven true for lots of folks of all political walks, evidenced by the ongoing exodus to FB.
 
Could be. I'm on both, but I don't spend tons of time on either. Probably I'm missing out both ways. :)
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Posted: Aug 27, 2009 - 10:49am

 winter wrote:

Well said. I'm more liberal-leaning myself, and I'm often tempted to wash my hands of the place because of all the flame wars and personal attacks and pettiness. I wish we could all disagree without being disagreeable.

 
Thanks, B. I think it's proven true for lots of folks of all political walks, evidenced by the ongoing exodus to FB.

samiyam

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Posted: Aug 27, 2009 - 10:49am

 zevon wrote:

Not at all. As a matter of fact, I hang with him daily at another site, in another group, and he is a very well respected and valuable member of that group, as well as being a lot of fun to hang with.

That's my answer to your question, PJ, and the following is not directed at you in any way shape or form.

If you want to hate anyone's political or other worldviews, hate them. If you want to make it personal, I submit that it's a pretty fucked up thing to do.
It equates to "because this person believes in something I vehemently disagree with, this person is a flaming asshole". Prejudice of the worst kind.
Hate the game, but the playa hating is bullshit.

If this puts me on 10, 50, 100 people's shitlist, I really don't give a rat's ass. I've long ago given up any hope that things will change for the better around here, that's why I'm not around that much. I know who my friends are and so do they, and we stay in touch one way or the other.
 
As I've said before, I like Beaker because he stirs the waters.

There may seem to be too many leftists here at RP's forums but I like to see Beaker post because he's definitely a right-winged person in his politics and the balance makes the whole experience better.  Now if I'm wrong to have posted this, I'm wrong.  There are times his opinions upset me and I've disagreed with him on things, but I love having him around.

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Posted: Aug 27, 2009 - 10:47am

 hippiechick wrote:

So now, we're not only talking about someone, we are speaking FOR him. Are you Beaker's brain? 

People, this ain't high school. 

 
Which part of my words do you read as my speaking for Beak?
On what planet do you spend most of your time? etc. {#Lol}
winter

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Posted: Aug 27, 2009 - 10:46am

 zipper wrote:

Thankfully, the Beak is resilient enough to withstand the barbs cast his way. He is one of the few vocal conservatives at RP. The prevalence of the liberal viewpoint has sadly alienated many conservatives from RP. The love of music is universal and it draws people from every political stance. I'm more conservative than he is, and had I not made in-person friendships with members of the community, I would be long gone from here solely because of the widespread cheap shots taken at my own party's expense. Some days, I'm still tempted to wash my hands of the place, a la nook. What's worse than the community suffering from the dearth of a conservative voice is that B&R's efforts suffer from the loss of support, both financially and socially spreading the word.

Never assume that everyone anyone here agrees with your opinion. I certainly don't.

 
Well said. I'm more liberal-leaning myself, and I'm often tempted to wash my hands of the place because of all the flame wars and personal attacks and pettiness. I wish we could all disagree without being disagreeable.
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Posted: Aug 27, 2009 - 10:44am

{#Lol}
hippiechick

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Posted: Aug 27, 2009 - 10:41am

 zipper wrote:

Thankfully, the Beak is resilient enough to withstand the barbs cast his way. He is one of the few vocal conservatives at RP. The prevalence of the liberal viewpoint has sadly alienated many conservatives from RP. The love of music is universal and it draws people from every political stance. I'm more conservative than he is, and had I not made in-person friendships with members of the community, I would be long gone from here solely because of the widespread cheap shots taken at my own party's expense. Some days, I'm still tempted to wash my hands of the place, a la nook. What's worse than the community suffering from the dearth of a conservative voice is that B&R's efforts suffer from the loss of support, both financially and socially spreading the word.

Never assume that everyone anyone here agrees with your opinion. I certainly don't.

 
So now, we're not only talking about someone, we are speaking FOR him. Are you Beaker's brain? 

People, this ain't high school. 
zevon

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Posted: Aug 27, 2009 - 10:41am

 pjcle wrote:

Question:

Is Beaker really all the horrible things people say?



 
Not at all. As a matter of fact, I hang with him daily at another site, in another group, and he is a very well respected and valuable member of that group, as well as being a lot of fun to hang with.

That's my answer to your question, PJ, and the following is not directed at you in any way shape or form.

If you want to hate anyone's political or other worldviews, hate them. If you want to make it personal, I submit that it's a pretty fucked up thing to do.
It equates to "because this person believes in something I vehemently disagree with, this person is a flaming asshole". Prejudice of the worst kind.
Hate the game, but the playa hating is bullshit.

If this puts me on 10, 50, 100 people's shitlist, I really don't give a rat's ass. I've long ago given up any hope that things will change for the better around here, that's why I'm not around that much. I know who my friends are and so do they, and we stay in touch one way or the other.

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Posted: Aug 27, 2009 - 10:41am

 samiyam wrote:

What pool of anger did this arise from?
 
I'm sorry if you thought I was angry. i was just being a little picky about the 'attacking inappropriately' statement. Meaning, no attack is appropriate...

And I'm giving you a pass on whatever you say because of your splendid writing.

No anger.

maryte

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Posted: Aug 27, 2009 - 10:40am

 samiyam wrote:

gossip... means "news"  That's the origin of the word.  What do I think of Owld Skipper?  I think he's said some really interesting and noteworthy things here at RP.  I don't blame him for being Canadian.  That's not his fault.    But I guess that's gossip too.
 

Not according to the OED:

godsibb masc. (f. god GOD + sib(b adj., akin, related: see SIB a.) = ON. gu{edh}-sefe masc., gu{edh}-sifja fem., OSw. guzsowir masc., gu{th}ziff, gudzsöff fem. In ME. a single example is found of a fem. godzybbe corresp. to masc. godzyb (see quot. 1340 in 1).> 
oldviolin

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Posted: Aug 27, 2009 - 10:39am

 romeotuma wrote:


"Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of our lives..."

 



samiyam

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Posted: Aug 27, 2009 - 10:35am

 hippiechick wrote:

Well, then why don't we play 

"What do you think of Owld Skipper?" 

Talking about people, esp when they are not even present, is gossip. 

 
gossip... means "news"  That's the origin of the word.  What do I think of Owld Skipper?  I think he's said some really interesting and noteworthy things here at RP.  I don't blame him for being Canadian.  That's not his fault.    But I guess that's gossip too.

zipper

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Posted: Aug 27, 2009 - 10:32am

 pjcle wrote:

Question:

Is Beaker really all the horrible things people say?

I can't find anywhere he said anything racist or hurtful, but I am not a consistent forum reader.  His avatar/sig doesn't really lend itself to anything bad, he keeps saying he's not a racists or sexist.  I'm not sure if people don't like him, if so why, or if he is something I can't see.  The people who don't like him seem to be pretty smart and witty, and I'm inclined to think they are right, but I can't find anything.



 
Thankfully, the Beak is resilient enough to withstand the barbs cast his way. He is one of the few vocal conservatives at RP. The prevalence of the liberal viewpoint has sadly alienated many conservatives from RP. The love of music is universal and it draws people from every political stance. I'm more conservative than he is, and had I not made in-person friendships with members of the community, I would be long gone from here solely because of the widespread cheap shots taken at my own party's expense. Some days, I'm still tempted to wash my hands of the place, a la nook. What's worse than the community suffering from the dearth of a conservative voice is that B&R's efforts suffer from the loss of support, both financially and socially spreading the word.

Never assume that everyone anyone here agrees with your opinion. I certainly don't.


samiyam

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Posted: Aug 27, 2009 - 10:31am

 Atman wrote:

Hey, you f#$ktard!

Hey, you g@#ddamn f#$ktard!

I think I see the difference. Attacking others is okay, as long as it's not profane or inappropriate?

Maybe we should start a thread about how to communicate in a way that is effective, without being violent toward others. Move in that direction anyway.

At this point, samiyam, you can say anything/do anything, you are the Bean King! Alas, I wish my appreciation for you was unconditional, but KEEP WRITING YOUR STORY and stop wasting your precious writing skills wrangling with g@#ddamn f#$ktards!

{#Devil_pimp}

 
What pool of anger did this arise from?

hippiechick

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Posted: Aug 27, 2009 - 10:31am

 Atman wrote:

"Stop calling me Ethel"

 
{#Kiss}
oldviolin

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Posted: Aug 27, 2009 - 10:30am

 maryte wrote:


Fixed your typo.

 

{#High-five}
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