Palin said:

I thought this little part was annoying, the way she said it.

 JrzyTmata wrote: 
Seriously, we should fear the Bosniacs.  I hear they carry Laser Cats and are not afraid to use them.

Ah, crap

Bosniaks is real

 rosedraws wrote:  

Gestures like that, whether voulntary or involuntary (I'm sure her winks are strategic), are curious, and can cut either way.  Gore lost a lot of points in his debate for those audible, heavy sighs.  I suspect,. for many people, Palin gains points for being folksy or cute with her winks.  Bush's smirks fell somewhere inbetween.       

JrzyTmata wrote:
My count:

Palin said Maverick 6 times.

Biden said it 9 times in that mini rant. 

It looks like Palin said reform 13 times. 

She only said Alaska 7 times?  It seemed like 70. 

 rosedraws wrote: 
Me too, once I figured he was talking about leg braces (I hope) and not orthodontia...

 JrzyTmata wrote:
Maverick: 
Palin -  6
Biden - 9

Reform:
Palin - 12
Biden - 0

Change:
Palin - 9
Bident - 17

red5_bc wrote:
Biden said "I don't question their motivation, I question their judgment".  So, it's not like the good motivation lets everyone off the hook.  I wish he had said he questions their tactics...

Yeah, it wasn't a great anecdote.  I liked what he was trying to say, once I figured it out.

 rosedraws wrote: 
I think she said maverick twice. Joe said it about a brazillion times in a mini rant.

the word Bosniacs made me laugh and say wtf? is Spielberg writing his material?

 rosedraws wrote: 
Because Jesse Helms adopted a kid with braces and he felt like a jerk for saying something bad about Jesse?  I understand the sentiment but was that really an effective anecdote?

If they all have meaningful motivation, doesn't that excuse all of them for making bad decisions?

red5_bc wrote:
He was talking about how he learned to respect his colleagues because they all do what they do with a meaningful motivation. 

Wait, maybe you weren't asking a question...

 

 

Huh?

I'm looking foward to the word count.  How many times did she repeat words like, reform, maverick, and perhaps more than anything, ALASKA. 

What things did Biden repeat that bugged the Repub side?

steeler wrote:
Oh, the winks!  I'd like to see that added to the transcript, it was so effin freaky.  My friend started shouting out, "don't you wink at me."  "don't wink at me I said!" 

 black321 wrote: 


What would be great entertainement would be for her to be on SNL and have a mock debate with Tina Fey portraying her. They did something (not a debate) like that with Hillary Clinton. I wonder if —at some point in the future, after the election — they could get her to do that. Palin, I mean.   

Saw this in a WSJ comments: 

Palin definitely won the imaginary debate in her head.

She answered all her own questions perfectly.

Comment by HedgeFundAnalyst - October 2, 2008 at 10:58 pm

 stewliscious wrote: 

Um, the debate - check the thread title.  And you must not read the threads much - there's quite a strong (and vocal, eh L8?) contingency for additional parties.

 p4jkafla wrote: 

I think Gwen let them roam too much. She even answered yes each time one of them (mostly her) asked if he or she could say something on a topic unrelated to the question. She easily could have politely said no to those requests. 

But, that said, it is a losing battle to keep pointing out that the candidate is not answering the question. That is why reporters covering the President do not do that except in the most extreme situations.  You can ask follow-up questions, but to point out the obvious really won't accomplish anything.  It's just sort of nature of the beast.  No moderator is going to continually point it out because that is all they would be doing (On the very first question, she did state that neither had answered her question, and they both laughed). The candidates in a poltiical debate will stray.  The key is to ask follow-up questions, and I don't think she was very effective on that; could have been stronger. She tended to just stick to her script of questions.      

 maryte wrote: 
Again, I am just curious:  won what?  They are 2 versions of the same thing packaged in different plastic.  They both want your money to give it to someone else, they both want more control over your life. If either of them "win" does that mean that any of us win or lose with them?  Why is no one pushing a 3rd (or 4th or 5th ) party?  especially here on RP?

Alafia wrote:
Really. Is it too much to ask the participants to stay on topic? Is it too much to expect from a moderator that they keep the participants on topic?

 rosedraws wrote: 

I'm sure some of it plays with vast segments of the general public, but I tend to agree with your assessment. But you forgot to mention the winks.  What's up with that?  I found that more inexplicable — and seriously out of place and inappropriate for a VP debate. Again, however, I bet there are those who love that stuff.  Maybe even some here. I don't get it — the winks to the audience (and camera). Is it a game?

Yeah, that answer about expanding the power of the VP (she said something about enhancing "flexibilitiy", whatever that is supposed to mean) came out of the blue and opened the door for Biden to link she — and McCain — to Cheney.  Likle I said in an earlier post this morning, I thought Biden did an effective job of linking McCain to Bush.  This exchange is one example.