One Democrat who is neutral in the 2020 race and spoke to Obama about Bidenâs gaffe-prone nature recalled the former president saying: âDonât underestimate Joeâs ability to fuck things up.â
From the WSJ piece:
Mr. Bidenâs statements reflect a popular Beltway belief that with the right messaging, unpleasant reality simply vanishes. Call $740 billion in green spending the Inflation Reduction Act andâvoilà !âyouâre defeating inflation. Or boast that you have more accomplishments than any other president two years in and somehow voters will forget that your No. 1 achievement is, as this newspaper has said, a decline in the living standards of the American people.
It is very telling when the only way to defend Biden is with using whataboutisms.
Cannot even say, yeah, but he is doing such a great job ...
He has accomplished quite a few things, including that whole marijuana/prison thing, that I would think you would approve. I'm sure he would accomplish more without that obstructionist McConnell and a couple of democrats in the senate.
An ongoing problem: the GOP is so relentless in saying negative stuff, regardless (see his despairing but loving phone message to his son), that it dissuades Biden supporters from adding more to the thoughtless, reflexive barrage of nonsense complaints.
If the nation were less robotic in its football-team hatred for the other "side" - when everything should be dependent on "what helps the majority of Americans the most" - then you could see, from both sides, some assent and some disagreement. But we're not there. Instead, our social media is infiltrated with Russian/Chinese agents who post inflammatory things, making Americans hate each other and causing the nation to fragment. If we were attacked - which isn't an impossibility - the left/right finger pointing and name calling and blame game and false flag accusations would make us completely unable to mount a response.
Similarly, the majority of Americans aren't millionaires - but they listen to what millionaires want (donations, union-busting, violence as a solution) without considering what they really want. They stay in the serf role, parroting what the media wants them to parrot.
Thanks Joe ! You gave the green light to go hunt MAGA's during your creepy "Soul Of The Nation" speech in Philly. You have done what you have condemned Trump for and now someone has actually died because of your venomous hate speech. A speech that was widely approved by most here at RP.
Thanks Joe ! You gave the green light to go hunt MAGA's during your creepy "Soul Of The Nation" speech in Philly. You have done what you have condemned Trump for and now someone has actually died because of your venomous hate speech. A speech that was widely approved by most here at RP.
Thanks Joe ! You gave the green light to go hunt MAGA's during your creepy "Soul Of The Nation" speech in Philly. You have done what you have condemned Trump for and now someone has actually died because of your venomous hate speech. A speech that was widely approved by most here at RP.
Yes, if you probe the depths of the 8% of a population self-selected for a particular delusion you will find all kinds of other delusions consistent with the original. They say these things (at least the pollsters interpreted their answers as saying these things) but does this mean anything? Are they part of a demographic that might do anything, or are they just yelling at the TV in the rest home and spoiling Thanksgiving for the parts of their families that still speak to them?
I think we're both old enough to remember the 1960s. There were actual revolutionaries dedicated to the destruction of US society and they were young enough and dedicated enough to try. They failed. That society survived and has continued to evolve.
A tiny minority that believes daffy things (like the soixante huitards) can still be pretty destructive, but it takes a lot more than that to be more than a nuisance.
But they're electing congressmen! The '60s radicals elected congressmen too. Some of them are still there. I ain't panicking.
Before my time (to be able to remember. However one can always read about it.)
Likely because in those (leftist) historical cases there was ample push back/infiltration/suppression from establishment institutions to make sure they couldn't succeed. Half a century of Red Scare had passed already.
"People who said force is justified to restore Trump were consistent in their insurrectionist sentiments: Of them, 90% also see Biden as illegitimate, and 68% also think force may be needed to preserve Americaâs traditional way of life."
Also...
63% agree with the statement that âAfrican American people or Hispanic people in our country will
eventually have more rights than whitesâ â a belief sometimes called âthe Great Replacement.â
Yes, if you probe the depths of the 8% of a population self-selected for a particular delusion you will find all kinds of other delusions consistent with the original. They say these things (at least the pollsters interpreted their answers as saying these things) but does this mean anything? Are they part of a demographic that might do anything, or are they just yelling at the TV in the rest home and spoiling Thanksgiving for the parts of their families that still speak to them?
I think we're both old enough to remember the 1960s. There were actual revolutionaries dedicated to the destruction of US society and they were young enough and dedicated enough to try. They failed. That society survived and has continued to evolve.
A tiny minority that believes daffy things (like the soixante huitards) can still be pretty destructive, but it takes a lot more than that to be more than a nuisance.
But they're electing congressmen! The '60s radicals elected congressmen too. Some of them are still there. I ain't panicking.
Let's put this in perspective: in 2001 Gallup asked a similar number of people about the legitimacy of George W. Bush's election. 17% responded that he stole the electionâsimilar to the results of this survey. They didn't ask them if they thought violence was justified as a response; maybe they didn't need the click-bait views. You might have missed this, but we didn't have a revolution then either.
Or maybe because they didn't storm the Capitol.
"People who said force is justified to restore Trump were consistent in their insurrectionist sentiments: Of them, 90% also see Biden as illegitimate, and 68% also think force may be needed to preserve Americaâs traditional way of life."
Also...
63% agree with the statement that âAfrican American people or Hispanic people in our country will
eventually have more rights than whitesâ â a belief sometimes called âthe Great Replacement.â
No. They didn't ask 21 million people and get that answer, they asked 1,070 and extrapolated. We have to trust that their sample was representative and that the conclusions (advocating violence) are supported by the questions asked and the answers interpreted.
But let's say they got all that right. Let's say they are accurately representing the opinions of the 1,070 people they asked. The fraction of respondents who they so characterized is 8%. 86 people out of 1,070.
8% is not a trivial number. It would be the nucleus of a revolution...if they meant it. They clearly don't.
Are they rioting? Bombing government buildings? Setting up roadblocks and seizing towns and building barricades? Despite all the hyperventilating in the press, no.. It's enough of an audience to pander to for a TV show or two. It's enough to retweet some memes. If they actually vote it might be enough to sway some elections, but a lot of them aren't even that motivated.
Estimates vary about how many were involved in the capitol riot. By some counts 2,000 people entered the buildingâof whom almost half have been charged with crimes. That was almost 2 years ago. Are they still poking cops with flag poles? Are they still breaking windows in the capitol?
Let's put this in perspective: in 2001 Gallup asked a similar number of people about the legitimacy of George W. Bush's election. 17% responded that he stole the electionâsimilar to the results of this survey. They didn't ask them if they thought violence was justified as a response; maybe they didn't need the click-bait views. You might have missed this, but we didn't have a revolution then either.
It's infuriating how often headlines based on any sort of surveys or studies are so definitive about their extrapolations. They rarely start with "A projected..." or An estimated..."
