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kurtster

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Posted: Dec 22, 2024 - 4:00am

 rgio wrote:
We don't need a rule... we need an educated electorate and compelling options.

 
Well that ship sank long ago.  Torpedoed by the same people that brought you Biden and then Harris.  They have been "educating" our kids for two generations now.  The indoctrination is complete.
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Posted: Dec 21, 2024 - 8:55pm

 haresfur wrote:

The fatal flaw in your argument


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haresfur

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Posted: Dec 21, 2024 - 5:03pm

 rgio wrote:

We don't need a rule... we need an educated electorate and compelling options.

We also need to return to a time of full transparency in politics.  Every dollar in support of every candidate should be visible.   We should know who is buying what, and allow voters to consider their options.

Lastly... we need to educate about the process and the system.  Too few people understand how government and elections work.  What the debt ceiling is, and how tariffs work. 

An informed, educated electorate would not have ended up here.  We're the problem... and an age limit won't fix that.


The fatal flaw in your argument

haresfur

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Posted: Dec 21, 2024 - 5:03pm

 rgio wrote:

We don't need a rule... we need an educated electorate and compelling options.

We also need to return to a time of full transparency in politics.  Every dollar in support of every candidate should be visible.   We should know who is buying what, and allow voters to consider their options.

Lastly... we need to educate about the process and the system.  Too few people understand how government and elections work.  What the debt ceiling is, and how tariffs work. 

An informed, educated electorate would not have ended up here.  We're the problem... and an age limit won't fix that.


The fatal flaw in your argument

rgio

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Posted: Dec 21, 2024 - 4:36pm

 Isabeau wrote:

A maximum age to run for Prez at 65?
if makes it two terms = 73. Sounds ok to me.


We don't need a rule... we need an educated electorate and compelling options.

We also need to return to a time of full transparency in politics.  Every dollar in support of every candidate should be visible.   We should know who is buying what, and allow voters to consider their options.

Lastly... we need to educate about the process and the system.  Too few people understand how government and elections work.  What the debt ceiling is, and how tariffs work. 

An informed, educated electorate would not have ended up here.  We're the problem... and an age limit won't fix that.

Isabeau

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Posted: Dec 21, 2024 - 4:05pm

A maximum age to run for Prez at 65?
if makes it two terms = 73. Sounds ok to me.
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Posted: Dec 21, 2024 - 2:18pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


Well, that should go without saying, but...


So should not being convicted of a crime, but...
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Posted: Dec 21, 2024 - 1:49pm

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I'd be fine with amending the constitution to include a maximum age as well. Say, 65.


I think it makes sense. Maybe more sense than the minimum age. A younger person can gain experience but an older person is at risk of serious cognitive decline, even if they are competent when elected. These sorts of laws are kind of broad-brush but often necessary. There are people outside the range that would probably be good and effective as president, but it is important to avoid the disasters.
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Posted: Dec 21, 2024 - 1:43pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:


Having a brain should also be a prerequisite IMHO


Well, that should go without saying, but...
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Posted: Dec 21, 2024 - 1:32pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


I'd be fine with amending the constitution to include a maximum age as well. Say, 65.


Having a brain should also be a prerequisite IMHO
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Posted: Dec 21, 2024 - 1:03pm

 black321 wrote:


yup. there's already a minimum age right?
but come on, what where the insiders thinking when they propped the old man up to run again?


I'd be fine with amending the constitution to include a maximum age as well. Say, 65.
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Posted: Dec 21, 2024 - 12:28pm

 black321 wrote:

but come on, what where the insiders thinking when they propped the old man up to run again?
 
That they can fool all (or enough) of the people all of the time.  Which they did, until the debate.
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Posted: Dec 20, 2024 - 12:04pm

 black321 wrote:


yup. there's already a minimum age right?
but come on, what where the insiders thinking when they propped the old man up to run again?

Reagan? Biden? Trump?  Doesn't matter, the answer is money and power, see also Pelosi and McConnell....Thurman, Feinstein, Grassley, Rogers, Waters, Clyburn... Jesus, that's just off the top of my head. 

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Posted: Dec 20, 2024 - 7:43am

 islander wrote:


Do we really think Reagan was at the top of his game at the end?  Do we think Trump is now, or will continue to be?

maybe we shouldn't be electing geriatric people for this position.


yup. there's already a minimum age right?
but come on, what where the insiders thinking when they propped the old man up to run again?
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Posted: Dec 20, 2024 - 7:35am

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I thought the price of eggs was the critical factor? 
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Posted: Dec 20, 2024 - 7:31am

 islander wrote:
maybe we shouldn't be electing geriatric people for this position.





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Posted: Dec 20, 2024 - 7:26am

 black321 wrote:

How the White House Functioned With a Diminished Biden in Charge

Aides kept meetings short and controlled access, top advisers acted as go-betweens and public interactions became more scripted. The administration denied Biden has declined.

Dec. 19, 2024 5:00 am ET

During the 2020 presidential primary, Jill Biden campaigned so extensively across Iowa that she held events in more counties than her husband—a fact her press secretary at the time, Michael LaRosa, touted to a local reporter.

His superior in the Biden campaign quickly chided him. As the three rode in a minivan through the state’s cornfields, Anthony Bernal, then a deputy campaign manager and chief of staff to Jill Biden, pressed LaRosa to contact the reporter again and play down any comparison in campaign appearances between Joe Biden, then 77, and his wife, who is eight years his junior. Her energetic schedule only highlighted her husband’s more plodding pace, LaRosa recalls being told.

The message from Biden’s team was clear. “The more you talk her up, the more you make him look bad,” LaRosa said.

The small correction foreshadowed how Biden’s closest aides and advisers would manage the limitations of the oldest president in U.S. history during his four years in office.

To adapt the White House around the needs of a diminished leader, they told visitors to keep meetings focused. Interactions with senior Democratic lawmakers and some cabinet members—including powerful secretaries such as Defense’s Lloyd Austin and Treasury’s Janet Yellen—were infrequent or grew less frequent. Some legislative leaders had a hard time getting the president’s ear at key moments, including ahead of the U.S.’s disastrous pullout from Afghanistan.

Senior advisers were often put into roles that some administration officials and lawmakers thought Biden should occupy, with people such as National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan, senior counselor Steve Ricchetti and National Economic Council head Lael Brainard and her predecessor frequently in the position of being go-betweens for the president.

Press aides who compiled packages of news clips for Biden were told by senior staff to exclude negative stories about the president. The president wasn’t talking to his own pollsters as surveys showed him trailing in the 2024 race.

Throughout his presidency, a small group of aides stuck close to Biden to assist him, especially when traveling or speaking to the public. “They body him to such a high degree,” a person who witnessed it said, adding that the “hand holding” is unlike anything other recent presidents have had.

The White House operated this way even as the president and his aides pressed forward with his re-election bid—which unraveled spectacularly after his halting performance in a June debate with Donald Trump made his mental acuity an insurmountable issue. Vice President Kamala Harris replaced him on the Democratic ticket and was decisively defeated by Trump in a shortened campaign—leaving Democrats to debate whether their chances were undercut by Biden’s refusal to yield earlier.

The president’s slide has been hard to overlook. While preparing last year for his interview with Robert K. Hur, the special counsel who investigated Biden’s handling of classified documents, the president couldn’t recall lines that his team discussed with him. At events, aides often repeated instructions to him, such as where to enter or exit a stage, that would be obvious to the average person. Biden’s team tapped campaign co-chairman Jeffrey Katzenberg, a Hollywood mogul, to find a voice coach to improve the president’s fading warble.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/b...






Do we really think Reagan was at the top of his game at the end?  Do we think Trump is now, or will continue to be?

maybe we shouldn't be electing geriatric people for this position.
black321

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Posted: Dec 20, 2024 - 7:13am

How the White House Functioned With a Diminished Biden in Charge

Aides kept meetings short and controlled access, top advisers acted as go-betweens and public interactions became more scripted. The administration denied Biden has declined.

Dec. 19, 2024 5:00 am ET

During the 2020 presidential primary, Jill Biden campaigned so extensively across Iowa that she held events in more counties than her husband—a fact her press secretary at the time, Michael LaRosa, touted to a local reporter.

His superior in the Biden campaign quickly chided him. As the three rode in a minivan through the state’s cornfields, Anthony Bernal, then a deputy campaign manager and chief of staff to Jill Biden, pressed LaRosa to contact the reporter again and play down any comparison in campaign appearances between Joe Biden, then 77, and his wife, who is eight years his junior. Her energetic schedule only highlighted her husband’s more plodding pace, LaRosa recalls being told.

The message from Biden’s team was clear. “The more you talk her up, the more you make him look bad,” LaRosa said.

The small correction foreshadowed how Biden’s closest aides and advisers would manage the limitations of the oldest president in U.S. history during his four years in office.

To adapt the White House around the needs of a diminished leader, they told visitors to keep meetings focused. Interactions with senior Democratic lawmakers and some cabinet members—including powerful secretaries such as Defense’s Lloyd Austin and Treasury’s Janet Yellen—were infrequent or grew less frequent. Some legislative leaders had a hard time getting the president’s ear at key moments, including ahead of the U.S.’s disastrous pullout from Afghanistan.

Senior advisers were often put into roles that some administration officials and lawmakers thought Biden should occupy, with people such as National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan, senior counselor Steve Ricchetti and National Economic Council head Lael Brainard and her predecessor frequently in the position of being go-betweens for the president.

Press aides who compiled packages of news clips for Biden were told by senior staff to exclude negative stories about the president. The president wasn’t talking to his own pollsters as surveys showed him trailing in the 2024 race.

Throughout his presidency, a small group of aides stuck close to Biden to assist him, especially when traveling or speaking to the public. “They body him to such a high degree,” a person who witnessed it said, adding that the “hand holding” is unlike anything other recent presidents have had.

The White House operated this way even as the president and his aides pressed forward with his re-election bid—which unraveled spectacularly after his halting performance in a June debate with Donald Trump made his mental acuity an insurmountable issue. Vice President Kamala Harris replaced him on the Democratic ticket and was decisively defeated by Trump in a shortened campaign—leaving Democrats to debate whether their chances were undercut by Biden’s refusal to yield earlier.

The president’s slide has been hard to overlook. While preparing last year for his interview with Robert K. Hur, the special counsel who investigated Biden’s handling of classified documents, the president couldn’t recall lines that his team discussed with him. At events, aides often repeated instructions to him, such as where to enter or exit a stage, that would be obvious to the average person. Biden’s team tapped campaign co-chairman Jeffrey Katzenberg, a Hollywood mogul, to find a voice coach to improve the president’s fading warble.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/b...




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Posted: Dec 18, 2024 - 2:10pm

 kcar wrote:




You're not very good at this, are you? 


Nailed it!  ðŸ¤£

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Posted: Dec 18, 2024 - 11:28am

 kurtster wrote:

And here's one for you !
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You're not very good at this, are you? 

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