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kurtster

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Posted: Jan 24, 2021 - 7:45pm

 kcar wrote:
At this point, Kurt, if you still support Trump and want him back as President then you either don't believe in a constitutional republic based on the rule of law... Or you don't understand it all.
 
 kcar wrote:


Maybe you should smoke more dope and pick fewer fights online...

  
You might want to take yer own advice ... just sayin'
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Posted: Jan 24, 2021 - 7:25pm



 kurtster wrote:


Geez Louise, was this ever buried deep.  Had to go to page 4 to find a copy I could embed.

C-SPAN has already deleted its public copy of the event.

Anyway ...
.
 

1. Joe Biden is famous for his verbal gaffes.

2. It should tell you something that you had to search so much for this mistake. 

2a. Has Biden disavowed facts or evidence as bases for his policies or actions? Has Biden tried to away uncomfortable truths and facts as "fake news"?

3. Is there a documented catalogue of Biden telling 30,000+ lies over 4 years like the one Trump has?

4. Has Biden been caught on recorded audio and video committing insurrection, obstruction of justice and other impeachable offenses?

5. Did people die and our Capitol building get stormed because Biden couldn't accept the truth and couldn't stop lying about a stolen election?

At this point, Kurt, if you still support Trump and want him back as President then you either don't believe in a constitutional republic based on the rule of law... Or you don't understand it all.
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Posted: Jan 24, 2021 - 2:24pm

 westslope wrote:


 kcar wrote:


 westslope wrote:
......

"The trouble with "facts"? It is similar to the term "truth". It hints strongly at a moralistic, innumerate Dark Ages approach to knowledge."

Beg to differ.
 

So when scientists write and talk about 'stylized facts', first, second, third and forth moments, probabilities, likelihood functions what do they mean?

And why do they rarely if ever talk about 'facts' and the 'truth'?  
 

Geez Louise, was this ever buried deep.  Had to go to page 4 to find a copy I could embed.

C-SPAN has already deleted its public copy of the event.

Anyway ...
.
westslope

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Posted: Jan 24, 2021 - 1:36pm



 kcar wrote:


 westslope wrote:
......

"The trouble with "facts"? It is similar to the term "truth". It hints strongly at a moralistic, innumerate Dark Ages approach to knowledge."



Beg to differ.

 

So when scientists write and talk about 'stylized facts', first, second, third and forth moments, probabilities, likelihood functions what do they mean?

And why do they rarely if ever talk about 'facts' and the 'truth'?  
kcar

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Posted: Jan 24, 2021 - 10:41am



 kurtster wrote:

Then why did you even bother to post ?

Ah, that's right, I forgot ... gotta keep that virtue signaling thing going ... for your social credit score ...
 

'Cause I felt like it, Kurt. Maybe you should smoke more dope and pick fewer fights online...

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Posted: Jan 24, 2021 - 9:56am

kurtster

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Posted: Jan 23, 2021 - 6:53pm

 kcar wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

You need to do some more backscrolling to understanding how that question came to be.
 

I don't know about anyone else but I got no f*xks left to give on a Saturday night.
 
Then why did you even bother to post ?

Ah, that's right, I forgot ... gotta keep that virtue signaling thing going ... for your social credit score ...
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Posted: Jan 23, 2021 - 6:08pm



 kurtster wrote:

You need to do some more backscrolling to understanding how that question came to be.
 

I don't know about anyone else but I got no f*xks left to give on a Saturday night.
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Posted: Jan 23, 2021 - 5:46pm

 westslope wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

...... Has Trump been treated unfairly ?
 
Why do you care?    Given the opportunity, Trump would drive over you in a 3/4 tonne truck.

Why the obsession with this cult of personality?    Do you not care about the policy outcomes?

 
You need to do some more backscrolling to understanding how that question came to be.
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Posted: Jan 23, 2021 - 4:58pm



 westslope wrote:


 kcar wrote:

.......


Kurt may have a point: towards the end, some news sites were reporting on the Trump administration and the president in an openly critical manner. But they backed up their reporting and opinions with facts. The British press mostly use this approach.

And in my opinion, the open criticism of Trump and Trump's policies was quite justified. Trump is easily the worst president we've ever had. I didn't think Dubya would ever lose that title but there it is.

 

Yes, I noted a definite souring towards the Trump administration as 2020 and the SARS-CoV-2 virus pandemic progressed.  Not surprising given the circumstances.

I would avoid the use of the term "facts" and describe the reporting as evidence-based.

The trouble with "facts"?   It is similar to the term "truth".   It hints strongly at a moralistic, innumerate Dark Ages approach to knowledge.  

 

"The trouble with "facts"? It is similar to the term "truth". It hints strongly at a moralistic, innumerate Dark Ages approach to knowledge."



Beg to differ.
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Posted: Jan 23, 2021 - 2:18pm



 kcar wrote:

.......


Kurt may have a point: towards the end, some news sites were reporting on the Trump administration and the president in an openly critical manner. But they backed up their reporting and opinions with facts. The British press mostly use this approach.

And in my opinion, the open criticism of Trump and Trump's policies was quite justified. Trump is easily the worst president we've ever had. I didn't think Dubya would ever lose that title but there it is.

 

Yes, I noted a definite souring towards the Trump administration as 2020 and the SARS-CoV-2 virus pandemic progressed.  Not surprising given the circumstances.

I would avoid the use of the term "facts" and describe the reporting as evidence-based.

The trouble with "facts"?   It is similar to the term "truth".   It hints strongly at a moralistic, innumerate Dark Ages approach to knowledge.  

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Posted: Jan 23, 2021 - 11:56am



 steeler wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

If we treat Biden the same way, yes.  It is the job of journalists to dig and not trust, anyone.  And report their actual findings, without editorializing, or did I miss something along the way ?  Something about the 5 W's and only the 5 W's used to be the prime directive is my recollection.
 

Your previous comment, to which I responded, seemed to assail the zero tolerance standard — which you stated was established and used by the people here on this forum. Now, with this post, you shift to talking about the standards  employed by the media.
 

We're all reporters now, see?!!?





Kurt may have a point: towards the end, some news sites were reporting on the Trump administration and the president in an openly critical manner. But they backed up their reporting and opinions with facts. The British press mostly use this approach.

And in my opinion, the open criticism of Trump and Trump's policies was quite justified. Trump is easily the worst president we've ever had. I didn't think Dubya would ever lose that title but there it is.

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Posted: Jan 23, 2021 - 11:12am



 westslope wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

...... Has Trump been treated unfairly ?
 
Why do you care?    Given the opportunity, Trump would drive over you in 3/4 tonne truck.

Why the obsession with this cult of personality?    Do you not care about the policy outcomes?

 
Oh Boy...it's gonna be a long list.

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Posted: Jan 23, 2021 - 9:53am



 kurtster wrote:

...... Has Trump been treated unfairly ?
 
Why do you care?    Given the opportunity, Trump would drive over you in a 3/4 tonne truck.

Why the obsession with this cult of personality?    Do you not care about the policy outcomes?

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Posted: Jan 22, 2021 - 9:24pm

 steeler wrote:


Your previous comment, to which I responded, seemed to assail the zero tolerance standard — which you stated was established and used by the people here on this forum. Now, with this post, you shift to talking about the standards  employed by the media.
 
It has been demonstrated to be true in both cases imho, here in the forum and the media.  That I meant it to apply to the media initially and your interpretation that I was speaking about the forum just confirms the existence of both cases.  Although I did use the word "coverage" in my statement that you replied to which would certainly imply the media by most as opposed to the individuals here in the forum.

Freudian slip ?

So adjust your reply for this explanation, should you find the need.  Has Trump been treated unfairly ?
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Posted: Jan 22, 2021 - 7:38pm



 kurtster wrote:

If we treat Biden the same way, yes.  It is the job of journalists to dig and not trust, anyone.  And report their actual findings, without editorializing, or did I miss something along the way ?  Something about the 5 W's and only the 5 W's used to be the prime directive is my recollection.
 

Your previous comment, to which I responded, seemed to assail the zero tolerance standard — which you stated was established and used by the people here on this forum. Now, with this post, you shift to talking about the standards  employed by the media.
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Posted: Jan 22, 2021 - 7:35pm

 kurtster wrote:
If we treat Biden the same way, yes.  It is the job of journalists to dig and not trust, anyone.  And report their actual findings, without editorializing, or did I miss something along the way ?  Something about the 5 W's and only the 5 W's used to be the prime directive is my recollection.
 
But it was all unfair, fake news then...
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Posted: Jan 22, 2021 - 7:31pm

 R_P wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
So are you suddenly having a "come to Jesus moment" and saying that Trump was treated unfairly ?
 
Are you now saying Trump was treated fairly?
 
If we treat Biden the same way, yes.  It is the job of journalists to dig and not trust, anyone.  And report their actual findings, without editorializing, or did I miss something along the way ?  Something about the 5 W's and only the 5 W's used to be the prime directive is my recollection.
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Posted: Jan 22, 2021 - 7:02pm

 kurtster wrote:
So are you suddenly having a "come to Jesus moment" and saying that Trump was treated unfairly ?
 
Are you now saying Trump was treated fairly?
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Posted: Jan 22, 2021 - 6:42pm

 steeler wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

Nope.  The standard of zero tolerance was established in the coverage of Trump with all the gusto you all could enable.

It is time to reap what y'all have sown.
 
You evidently are not a believer in the adage that two wrongs do not make a right.

You evidently do believe in the adage that the ends justify the means (despite my memory that you used to say here that you did not believe in that).

 
So are you suddenly having a "come to Jesus moment" and saying that Trump was treated unfairly ?
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