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miamizsun

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Posted: Mar 7, 2021 - 6:14am



 haresfur wrote:


 miamizsun wrote:
role reversal of sorts...

 
Ok, I haven't watched this because time, but I have done quite a few role-playing training exercises for various things and there is tremendous potential for abuse in setting up situations to have predetermined outcomes that just reinforce the biases of the trainers rather than actually training people for reasonably realistic situations. It is hard to balance low-probability/high risk events with high-probability/low risk events, but the result is often to elevate the significance of the low probability events, particularly in the case of police where there is very low probability of consequences for blowing citizens away because you thought there was a slight possibility of them trying to harm you.

 
you should watch it

and is there a legit argument for  guided policing/law enforcement?  something that may have better outcomes? 

absolutely, especially when there is a chance for the initiation of a strategy (serving a warrant for example)


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Posted: Mar 6, 2021 - 4:29pm



 miamizsun wrote:
role reversal of sorts...

 
Ok, I haven't watched this because time, but I have done quite a few role-playing training exercises for various things and there is tremendous potential for abuse in setting up situations to have predetermined outcomes that just reinforce the biases of the trainers rather than actually training people for reasonably realistic situations. It is hard to balance low-probability/high risk events with high-probability/low risk events, but the result is often to elevate the significance of the low probability events, particularly in the case of police where there is very low probability of consequences for blowing citizens away because you thought there was a slight possibility of them trying to harm you.

miamizsun

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Posted: Mar 6, 2021 - 11:39am

role reversal of sorts...

haresfur

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Posted: Feb 24, 2021 - 12:55am



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Heaven forbid you should walk in the street where at least the snow is packed down

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Posted: Feb 23, 2021 - 1:13pm

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/u...

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Posted: Feb 3, 2021 - 7:45am



 miamizsun wrote:
unfortunately a couple of fbi agents were killed here yesterday

just thinking about the process of capturing a human being

safety, resistance, leverage, difficulty, strategy, etc.

could it be safer and easier to arrest someone once outside their nest/burrow/home turf?

is there a  way to minimize risk for all involved? 

might produce a better outcome or the odds of a better outcome
 
Sure, but it's not as much FUN. Where else are they gonna use all those fancy military-grade toys?

Local (former) Sheriff escalated situations for ratings. Which led to at least one death. See: 'Live PD Williamson County'. 

FYI, Wil-co recently elected the first Dem Sheriff in something like 20 years. Whats-his-name is still costing them a fortune, in $$$ and reputation.
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sunybuny

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Posted: Feb 3, 2021 - 5:25am



 miamizsun wrote:
unfortunately a couple of fbi agents were killed here yesterday

just thinking about the process of capturing a human being

safety, resistance, leverage, difficulty, strategy, etc.

could it be safer and easier to arrest someone once outside their nest/burrow/home turf?

is there a  way to minimize risk for all involved? 

might produce a better outcome or the odds of a better outcome
 
Saw that big time over here. Praying for everyone.

miamizsun

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Posted: Feb 3, 2021 - 5:08am

unfortunately a couple of fbi agents were killed here yesterday

just thinking about the process of capturing a human being

safety, resistance, leverage, difficulty, strategy, etc.

could it be safer and easier to arrest someone once outside their nest/burrow/home turf?

is there a  way to minimize risk for all involved? 

might produce a better outcome or the odds of a better outcome
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Feb 1, 2021 - 7:27am

Police evidently incapable of controlling a nine year-old girl without the use of handcuffs and pepper spray.
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Posted: Jan 26, 2021 - 5:04am

Fatal Police Shootings Of Unarmed Black People Reveal Troubling Patterns
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Posted: Jan 12, 2021 - 5:26pm



 Lazy8 wrote:
Be careful while scalp hunting. Some have real people under them.

A Capitol Police Officer On Duty During The Coup Attempt Has Died By Suicide

Officer Howard Liebengood was 51 years old.

 
Very sad. I don't know the story behind this and I don't need to know, although officials trying to understand the whole set of events might.

Don't know if I said it here or somewhere else but I suspect that there are a whole range of things that affected how the Capitol Police acted - from failure of their leadership and the administration supporting them and hanging them out to dry, taking a stand to do their job when faced with a clusterfuck, trying to tone things down when the mob entered the building, allowing their preconceived biases in favour of trump to affect how they did their job, and probably more complications of human nature. They aren't all the same person. 

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Posted: Jan 12, 2021 - 3:17pm

Be careful while scalp hunting. Some have real people under them.

A Capitol Police Officer On Duty During The Coup Attempt Has Died By Suicide

Officer Howard Liebengood was 51 years old.

westslope

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Posted: Jan 6, 2021 - 7:57am



 Ohmsen wrote:
 


In the context of the worst recession since the 1930s, this is totally cool.   Terrific political marketing for the police force.

In the past, I have run across anecdotes of other police officers doing similar in terms of providing a service that is above and beyond what the job description calls for.  

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Posted: Jan 4, 2021 - 8:53am



 haresfur wrote:


 R_P wrote:
 
I think his worst pardon was to a bunch of mercenaries who murdered unarmed civilians and tried to cover it up, but maybe that's just me

 
I have this feeling that we could debate this for 25 minutes and then end up in each other's arms bawling our eyes out.



In theory or is that according to one narrative? ..... Americans are supposed to inflict atrocities on foreign non-white people in distant lands.  Going along with that narrative, it is always shocking when Americans inflict atrocities on people within their own borders.    Or maybe it no longer is.

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Posted: Jan 3, 2021 - 6:25pm

 haresfur wrote:
 R_P wrote:
 
I think his worst pardon was to a bunch of mercenaries who murdered unarmed civilians and tried to cover it up, but maybe that's just me
 
Depends on your metric. Sure, if you consider the damage wrought...
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jan 3, 2021 - 6:05pm



 haresfur wrote:

I think his worst pardon was to a bunch of mercenaries who murdered unarmed civilians and tried to cover it up, but maybe that's just me

 



+1
haresfur

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Posted: Jan 3, 2021 - 5:42pm



 R_P wrote:
 
I think his worst pardon was to a bunch of mercenaries who murdered unarmed civilians and tried to cover it up, but maybe that's just me

westslope

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Posted: Jan 3, 2021 - 5:02pm



 R_P wrote:
 


Here's an excerpt of the article:

A police sergeant later testified that he was approached by Mohr’s supervising officer who said, “Hey Sarge, we got a new dog. Mind if it gets a bite?” The sergeant gave consent, and Mohr set her dog to attack Mendez, an undocumented immigrant whose only crime was seeking a safe place to eat and sleep. Mohr testified that she was doing her job as trained, and the victim needed “only 10 stitches.”



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Posted: Dec 29, 2020 - 10:49pm

Trump’s worst pardon is one you haven’t heard about
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Posted: Dec 22, 2020 - 10:59am

Militarizing Local Police Does Not Reduce Crime
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