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Posted: Aug 19, 2011 - 7:34pm



The press nods as absurdity, lies prevail in the budget debate

COMMENTARY | August 18, 2011
By Henry Banta
henrybanta@aol.com

Several times recently Paul Krugman, the New York Times columnist and Nobel Prize winning professor at Princeton, has placed a large part of the blame for the appalling level of the budget debate on the media. (Here is one example.) The problem, he asserts, comes because there is no political cost to being outrageously wrong, irresponsible, stupid or even dishonest. In the eyes of the major media all opinion is equal. The content of political rhetoric does not matter. The truth or falsity of claims does not matter. All that matters is who is on what side. As a result we have had a crucial public debate in which perfectly absurd notions were reported as if they had serious merit. Rationality, civility, not to mention sanity have been major casualties.

This is a very serious accusation, one that responsible journalists should deal with. If it has merit, the profession needs some major self-examination. Granted that, in Professor Krugman's view, the most outrageous rhetoric came from the Tea Party and its allies, but his accusation cannot be dismissed as mere partisanship. There is nothing new in the charge that the major media are indifferent to factual issues, but the budget debate has conspicuously raised to a new level the media's inability or unwillingness to discuss factual issues.


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Posted: Jul 27, 2011 - 1:01pm



The Cult That Is Destroying America

by Paul Krugman
July 26, 2011

Think about what's happening right now. We have a crisis in which the right is making insane demands, while the president and Democrats in Congress are bending over backward to be accommodating - offering plans that are all spending cuts and no taxes, plans that are far to the right of public opinion.

So what do most news reports say? They portray it as a situation in which both sides are equally partisan, equally intransigent - because news reports always do that. And we have influential pundits calling out for a new centrist party, a new centrist president, to get us away from the evils of partisanship...


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Posted: Jul 17, 2011 - 9:34am

Ex-News International chief executive Rebekah Brooks has been arrested by police investigating phone hacking and bribery at the News of the World.

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Posted: Jul 12, 2011 - 10:51am

 kurtster wrote:
Why does Media Matters have a tax exempt status ?

They are hardly a neutral organization.

  These days there is no such thing. Churches are in on the act too, some going so far as to name specific candidates.


kurtster

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Posted: Jul 12, 2011 - 10:49am

Why does Media Matters have a tax exempt status ?

They are hardly a neutral organization.
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Posted: Jul 12, 2011 - 8:59am

It's getting so that I have to do an internet search every time I want to buy something

Murdoch Gets Rich Off High-Profile Evangelicals




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Posted: Jun 5, 2011 - 1:53pm

 kurtster wrote:


I just gotta say, you blew it on this one.  H sent you some support in confidence and you turned it against him.

For what ever reason, in H's case, I know when he is nudging me, as he did to me earlier today.  I didn't take it as an attack, didn't even think that way for a second.  We've communicated both publically and privately for many years as I have with you and he's a standup guy.

I saw his remark about you as a silly nudge, not as an attack.  I may be wrong on that, as I am not privvy to his inner thoughts. 

But you lost the most by violating a trust.



 
You are wrong. Implying that someone is a Jew hater is hardly a silly nudge so don't expect me to buy that shit, Kurt. His attacks, though mostly veiled insinuations, have been growing in frequency & have taken on an increasingly personal bent. I have nothing against the guy but this day's snakery by him was enough for me.

If its a cause you're looking for, Kurt, you can do a whole lot better than this Swedish creep. Like FREE PALESTINE ! for example.  But then you'd have to become a Jew hater too.
fucking ridiculous


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Posted: Jun 5, 2011 - 1:46pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Did I miss a sign-up sheet or what? How did Hazze luck out?

Damn, I can't even see the end of the line from here!

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Posted: Jun 5, 2011 - 12:18pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Did I miss a sign-up sheet or what? How did Hazze luck out?
 
{#High-five}

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Posted: Jun 5, 2011 - 11:28am

 nuggler wrote:
I have nothing more to say to you.
 
Did I miss a sign-up sheet or what? How did Hazze luck out?

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Posted: Jun 5, 2011 - 11:14am

 nuggler wrote:

From:HazzeSwede
Subject:Cheers
Sent:Jul 4, 2010 - 9:25am
{#Cheers}  Please DO stand up to the not so bright Peeps
My english is quite good enough to follow but to jump into the forum
I'm at loss.
Happy 4th !

hazze.

———————————

I have nothing to run away from, you leech. I stand by all I've said. You, on the other hand just showed your true colors, & its a sickly yellow-green, like cowardly shit.

Adios you snail. I have nothing more to say to you.

  
{#Cheers}

 
Yea, that was pretty frakkin lame, dude.{#Snooty}
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Posted: Jun 5, 2011 - 11:10am

 kurtster wrote:


I just gotta say, you blew it on this one.  H sent you some support in confidence and you turned it against him.

For what ever reason, in H's case, I know when he is nudging me, as he did to me earlier today.  I didn't take it as an attack, didn't even think that way for a second.  We've communicated both publically and privately for many years as I have with you and he's a standup guy.

I saw his remark about you as a silly nudge, not as an attack.  I may be wrong on that, as I am not privvy to his inner thoughts. 

But you lost the most by violating a trust.



 
Thanks K ! {#Cheers}
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Posted: Jun 5, 2011 - 11:08am

 nuggler wrote:


And only yesterday the subject of personal integrity came up. My opinions are well documented,  Hazze.

You, on the other hand, are going to have to live this one down because you wear 2 faces, my viper friend. I saw that many moons ago.
You sell snake oil of the most toxic grade & then accuse others of doing so.

 

I just gotta say, you blew it on this one.  H sent you some support in confidence and you turned it against him.

For what ever reason, in H's case, I know when he is nudging me, as he did to me earlier today.  I didn't take it as an attack, didn't even think that way for a second.  We've communicated both publically and privately for many years as I have with you and he's a standup guy.

I saw his remark about you as a silly nudge, not as an attack.  I may be wrong on that, as I am not privvy to his inner thoughts. 

But you lost the most by violating a trust.


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Posted: Jun 5, 2011 - 11:08am

 nuggler wrote:

From:HazzeSwede
Subject:Cheers
Sent:Jul 4, 2010 - 9:25am
{#Cheers}  Please DO stand up to the not so bright Peeps
My english is quite good enough to follow but to jump into the forum
I'm at loss.
Happy 4th !

hazze.

———————————

I have nothing to run away from, you leech. I stand by all I've said. You, on the other hand just showed your true colors, & its a sickly yellow-green, like cowardly shit.

Adios you snail. I have nothing more to say to you.

  
{#Cheers}

 
WAWAF

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Posted: Jun 5, 2011 - 11:05am

 HazzeSwede wrote:
WAWAF...Loon ! {#Roflol}

 
From:HazzeSwede
Subject:Cheers
Sent:Jul 4, 2010 - 9:25am
{#Cheers}  Please DO stand up to the not so bright Peeps
My english is quite good enough to follow but to jump into the forum
I'm at loss.
Happy 4th !

hazze.

———————————

I have nothing to run away from, you leech. I stand by all I've said. You, on the other hand just showed your true colors, & its a sickly yellow-green, like cowardly shit.

Adios you snail. I have nothing more to say to you.

  
{#Cheers}


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Posted: Jun 5, 2011 - 11:00am

 nuggler wrote:

From:HazzeSwede
Subject:Cheers
Sent:Jul 4, 2010 - 9:25am
{#Cheers}  Please DO stand up to the not so bright Peeps
My english is quite good enough to follow but to jump into the forum
I'm at loss.
Happy 4th !

hazze.
_________________

And only yesterday the subject of personal integrity came up. My opinions are well documented,  Hazze.

You, on the other hand, are going to have to live this one down because you wear 2 faces, my viper friend. I saw that many moons ago.
You sell snake oil of the most toxic grade & then accuse others of doing so.

  WAWAF...Loon ! {#Roflol}


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Posted: Jun 5, 2011 - 10:56am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

It happens, but we're talking about mainstream programming for the most part. These shows (Stewart and Fox etc) might outrage a slice of the population but most reasonable people just turn the channel if they don't like it. If enough people turn the channel, advertisers will abandon the program and the boycotters will claim victory when it was just the TV show running its course. Jumping the shark. If the message or content of the show is offensive, "quality" viewers will abandon the program and quality advertisers will follow. I don't know what is advertised on Jersey Shore but I'm sure it isn't Ameritrade. Probably Four Loko.


 

{#Lol}

I think we are pretty much on the same page on your main points.

{#Cheers}


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Posted: Jun 5, 2011 - 10:55am


From:HazzeSwede
Subject:Cheers
Sent:Jul 4, 2010 - 9:25am
{#Cheers}  Please DO stand up to the not so bright Peeps
My english is quite good enough to follow but to jump into the forum
I'm at loss.
Happy 4th !

hazze.
_________________

And only yesterday the subject of personal integrity came up. My opinions are well documented,  Hazze.

You, on the other hand, are going to have to live this one down because you wear 2 faces, my viper friend. I saw that many moons ago.
You sell snake oil of the most toxic grade & then accuse others of doing so.


HazzeSwede

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Posted: Jun 5, 2011 - 10:49am

 nuggler wrote:

From:HazzeSwede
Subject:Cheers
Sent:Jul 4, 2010 - 9:25am
{#Cheers}  Please DO stand up to the not so bright Peeps
My english is quite good enough to follow but to jump into the forum
I'm at loss.
Happy 4th !

hazze.

——————————————-


Its not about me, you viper. Its about YOU.


 
Sorry LOON..I have to WAWAF you !  



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Posted: Jun 5, 2011 - 10:48am

 kurtster wrote:
Then you also know that advertisers will pull their support when they disagree with a show's message or become pressured because of the threat of a boycott because of a show's message.
 
It happens, but we're talking about mainstream programming for the most part. These shows (Stewart and Fox etc) might outrage a slice of the population but most reasonable people just turn the channel if they don't like it. If enough people turn the channel, advertisers will abandon the program and the boycotters will claim victory when it was just the TV show running its course. Jumping the shark. If the message or content of the show is offensive, "quality" viewers will abandon the program and quality advertisers will follow. I don't know what is advertised on Jersey Shore but I'm sure it isn't Ameritrade. Probably Four Loko.

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