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Posted: Dec 4, 2008 - 9:37am

 romeotuma wrote:


Santa is Satan...

 
Really, the current Santa is nothing but a whore for a materialistic, greedy lifestyle, and that is evil to me.

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Posted: Dec 4, 2008 - 9:27am


"A wink of his eye, and a twist of his head,
soon led me to know I had nothing to dread."

-Twas' the Night Before Christmas, Clement C. Moore



It is also alarming that Santas popular title, "Nick," is also a common name for "the devil."

Old Nick: A well-known British name of the Devil. It seems probable that this name is derived from the Dutch Nikken, the devil..." (Shepard, Leslie A. Encyclopedia of Occultism and Parapsychology. New York: Gale Research Inc. 1991, p. 650).

Nicholas is one of the most common devils names in German, a name that remains today when Satan is referred as Old Nick. (Siefker, Phyllis. Santa Claus, Last of the Wild Men: The Origins and Evolution of Saint Nicholas. Jefferson: McFarland & Company, Inc., 1997, p. 69)

Besides the name Satan, he is also called Beelzebub, Lucifer . . . and in popular or rustic speech by many familiar terms as Old Nick . . . (Oxford English Dictionary) (Skeat, Walter W. Concise Dictionary of English Etymology. Ware: Wordsworth Editions Ltd, 1993, p. 304)



Thomas Nast was assigned to draw this Santa Claus, but having no idea what he looked like, drew him as the fur-clad, small, troll-like figure he had known in Bavaria when he was a child. This figure was quite unlike the tall Dutch Sinterklaas, who was traditionally depicted as a Catholic bishop. Who he drew was Saint Nicholas� dark helper, Swarthy, or Black Pete (a slang name for the devil in medieval Dutch). . . (Renterghem, Tony van. When Santa Was a Shaman. St. Paul: Llewellyn Publications, 1995, pp. 95-96)

Santa researcher, Phyllis Siefker, echoes Renterghems conclusion:

It seems obvious, therefore, that Santa Claus can be neither the alter ego of Saint Nicholas nor the brainchild of Washington Irving. . . If we peek behind the imposing Saint Nicholas, we see, glowering in the shadows, the saints reprobate companion, Black Pete. He, like Santa, has a coat of hair, a disheveled beard, a bag, and ashes on his face. . . In fact, it is this creature, rather than Irvings creation or an Asian saint, who fathered Santa Claus. (Siefker, Phyllis. Santa Claus, Last of the Wild Men: The Origins and Evolution of Saint Nicholas. Jefferson: McFarland & Company, Inc., 1997, p. 15)

By the way, St. Nicholas did not come down the chimney. It was his fur-clad, dark companion that came down the chimney. One of the reasons his sidekick was called the "Dark One" or "Black Peter" was because he was normally covered in soot and ashes from his chimney travels. The "dark companion" also carried the bag, distributed the goodies and punished the bad boys and girls.


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Posted: Dec 3, 2008 - 7:56pm

 hippiechick wrote:
I don't think that Santa sets a god example for the workers of the world. He holds little people (children) hostage, making them work like slaves, feeds them a very un-nourishing consisting mostly of sugar, and takes almost all the credit for Christmas cheer.

 
Who says they're hostages?  They'd be out in the cold, frozen, if Santa didn't take them in.


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Posted: Dec 3, 2008 - 7:53pm

I don't think that Santa sets a god example for the workers of the world. He holds little people (children) hostage, making them work like slaves, feeds them a very un-nourishing consisting mostly of sugar, and takes almost all the credit for Christmas cheer.
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