RichardPrins wrote: 
Am I wrong ?

 kurtster wrote: 
What lead you to believe that I would actually advocate such a thing?

 RichardPrins wrote: 
Yep bash away.  Its OK.

The article you cite is making the case for UN intervention as mentioned in the highly debated Small Arms Treaty.  I have read the entire treaty.  Those that say we have nothing to fear regarding the SAT should read his link and then read the treaty.  It may wake a few people up to what you and the UN are advocating for us Americans in order to take away our guns.

Your article cites some pretty amazing facts when left unexamined.

To absorb the scale of the mayhem, it's worth trying to guess the death toll of all the wars in American history since the War of Independence began in 1775, and follow that by estimating the number killed by firearms in the US since the day that Robert F. Kennedy was shot in 1968 by a .22 Iver-Johnson handgun, wielded by Sirhan Sirhan. The figures from Congressional Research Service, plus recent statistics from icasualties.org, tell us that from the first casualties in the battle of Lexington to recent operations in Afghanistan, the toll is 1,171,177. By contrast, the number killed by firearms, including suicides, since 1968, according to the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention and the FBI, is 1,384,171.

Note the bolded, including suicides.  I went deeper into the article to discover what the admitted ratio of suicide to homicide is. Its well over a 2:1 ratio.  So back that number minus the suicides down to 480k, or about 11k per year.  More people die from cars than firearm homicides on a 2:1 ratio.  While everylife is precious, 11k out of 300 million is extremely small.

You're being extremely dishonest in citing an article that includes a highly inflating number of suicide deaths to make the case for an outbreak of violence that resembles a civil war for crissakes.  If you want to have an honest discussion, use meaningful and honest numbers.

Are you trying to turn a sentiment with deliberate dishonesty or did you fail to read your own source all the way through ?

Just like the Navy Yard shootings, the first reports were an assault weapon, since we have learned it was a shotgun.  A shot gun that our VP Biden said everyone should have and please shoot through your front door first without looking to see who was on the other side.

American gun use is out of control. Shouldn't the world intervene?
The death toll from firearms in the US suggests that the country is gripped by civil war

 aflanigan wrote: 
and ?

 aflanigan wrote: 

thank you.

This Other Town

New Research Confirms Gun Rampages Are Rising—and Armed Civilians Don't Stop Them

Quantico Shooting: 3 Dead, Including Suspected Gunman, On Marine Base In Virginia (VIDEO)

 gypsyman wrote: 

Well, I guess I should have used quotation marks because it is a quote I received on my iPhone from a news station.

 gypsyman wrote: 
 

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 

I know, I was just being picky. But, notice, that in the order of relevance, "rampage" is pretty far downrange (snorts at own joke). However, I do think that a Bacchanalian shopping spree not only sounds interesting, it may be just what the doctor ordered. Not that there's anything wrong with a plain old spree, mind you.   

 gypsyman wrote: 
I ran into someone yesterday getting all bent over another word because the etymology indicated a meaning completely different from its current meaning. I thought to myself, "That person disabuses me of the notion that everyone should use a dictionary." And now here we have another, similar case.
 
There's no reason to think that all examples of synonyms given are appropriate in all cases; they simply list as many as they've run across. Certainly you're not also insisting that a shopping spree always includes a bacchanal? In this case, I think the synonym that's most applicable here would be "rampage."  

 2cats wrote: 
Is a spree like a lark? Is there shopping involved?

Thesaurus.com:
   

Part of Speech:	noun
Definition:	wild activity
Synonyms:	bacchanalia, ball, bash, binge, caper, carousal, carouse, carousing, celebration, field day, fling, frolic, high jinks, high time, jag, jamboree, junket, lark, merry-go-round, orgy, party, rampage, revel, rip*, spending expedition, splurge, tear*

   
Maybe spree isn't quite the perfect fit.... Again, absolutely no antagonistic bent here, just that "spree" has always been a tough descriptor for me to associate with shootings. Most likely due to my strict upbringing....    

Four dead in gun spree in upstate New York.

 bokey wrote: 
Sorry, I am not forensically qualified to assess the photograph, so I don't know what fact or facts it represents. I certainly know who it is, and have seen the photo before (I lived through the thing, as you probably did, as well), but I assure you in a completely un-antagonistic way that I don't know what to look for. 

 gypsyman wrote: 
Fact before I go to sleep.
Find more detailed images that show the fake shadows better.

I dunno who did it, but it sure wasn't this guy.

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 
Lots of hyperbole, not many facts. I think we'll all get along better with facts, don't you?

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

I think the Oswald photo with the rifle, pamphlets and Barry Bonds head was the impetuous behind Photoshop.

 gypsyman wrote: 
This whole line of reasoning is Nugent-level unstable. Geordie's right to be concerned.
 
They had to go back 5 decades to find an example that fit their narrative? The exception proves the rule. The rule in this case being some fictional bogeyman both set up and shot down by the same graphic.