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Posted: Aug 2, 2009 - 9:17pm

helenofjoy wrote:

Bless your heart! I am seeing a specialist for the allergies/asthma - he says no allergies, just asthma. The thing is I didn't tell him is I've smoked pot for the last 10 years to control the fm so I could support myself. They say my thyroid levels are normal, but I DO have a goiter which was bx'd in 2000 and found not to be malignant. I had it aspirated at that time and I hated the feeling that I was crashing while they were doing it. The thing is I have a feeling the asthma inhalers are almost as bad for me as the asthma. I having a young woman come in to do a thorough cleaning of my apt. Intellectually I know I could be so much worse off, but sometimes it feels like such a struggle just to be able to take care of myself so my kids don't have to.

Do not be too concerned about pot and asthma. Back when it was legal, marijuana used to be prescribed for asthma. They were actually called "asthma cigarettes". Its ironic that after 40 plus years of "knowledge", I am the only one in my family who does not have asthma. On the other hand marijuana does contribute to bronchitis. Its a trade off, but I see no reason to stop smoking pot. If it helps you make it through the day, then continue. I have thoroughly discussed marijuana with my doctors and only during certain phases of my treatment was it a no no. This is just my opinion. I make no profesional recommendations.

Hopefully your Doctor is approachable enough for an "off the record" discussion. Just ask, most Doctors will tell you if you can have a discussion on that basis.

Good luck and keep posting.

helenofjoy

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Posted: Aug 2, 2009 - 1:05pm
romeotuma wrote: You just hang in there and keep seeing your doctors... feel free to keep us posted about it... think about me washing your feet, and smile... Thank you! And I will vizualize the washing of my feet vigorously!!! I may pop for a pedicure later.

highwindows

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Posted: Aug 2, 2009 - 6:38am

helenofjoy wrote:

Thank you - My Grandfather wrote a novel called "High Windows." I don't think it was ever published and someone (possibly ex-husband) made off with the original manuscript when I wasn't looking.

I took my moniker from a poem by Philip Larkin.

Last verse;

"Rather than words comes the thought of high windows:
The sun-comprehending glass,
And beyond it, the deep blue air, that shows
Nothing, and is nowhere, and is endless"

A lot of his stuff tends to be a rather depressing but I always liked this particular poem.

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Posted: Aug 2, 2009 - 6:32am
highwindows wrote: Don't feel ashamed to feel sorry for yourself! Take care Thank you - My Grandfather wrote a novel called "High Windows." I don't think it was ever published and someone (possibly ex-husband) made off with the original manuscript when I wasn't looking.

highwindows

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Posted: Aug 2, 2009 - 6:24am

helenofjoy wrote:

I am so sad today and I'm sure its because of this new asthma thing going on and the fm and then last night I awoke with a problem swallowing properly. I already have a thyroid mass under there, that hasn't been a problem so far, but if it obstructs swallowing and/or breathing, it will have to be dealt with. I feel like I've been fighting for my life for so long that its getting tiresome. I am not suicidal, just feeling sorry for myself today. I apologize for being a whiner. I've ordered an expensive vaporizer to help with the herb for the fm, but I don't know about these asthma meds and what they may do to me. I am feeling very sorry for myself. I can't afford a therapist right now.

Don't feel ashamed to feel sorry for yourself!
Take care though {#Hug}

helenofjoy

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Posted: Aug 2, 2009 - 5:42am

romeotuma wrote:

I am sorry I have not seen your posts sooner...

have your doctors said you have hyperthyroidism or hypothyroidism?

Have your doctors diagnosed thyroid nodules? Have they called it a thyroid goiter? A goiter compresses the trachea and the esophagus and can cause coughing, waking up in your sleep because you feel like you can't breathe, sensations that food is stuck in your throat, etc... for a goiter, they will first try giving you a thyroid hormone pill because the pituitary will make less TSH and the thyroid will stop growing... if it keeps growing, then they will remove it with surgery...

it is manageable— you are going to be ok... you are not fighting for life, because even if they have to use surgery to remove it, the whole thing is still manageable... I understand how it may feel scary, but you are going to be ok... remember this— the scary sensations you feel are manageable... just keep seeing your doctors... have you seen an endocrinologist yet?

I would guess that there is a good chance the asthma is caused by one or more allergic reactions... have you been tested for allergies by an otolaryngologist— an ENT physician? It could be things like dust mites, mold, etc., and if you can remove the source of it, and there are lots of special ways to do that, then that may greatly reduce your asthma problems...

you are not whining about this stuff one bit... you feel free to keep talking to us about all this...

I just wash feet for a living, but I will be glad to discuss these things with you... I think a good foot-washing would make you feel better, but that is just my humble opinion... keep us posted...

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Posted: Aug 1, 2009 - 10:10pm

helenofjoy wrote:

This thyroid business is more important the docs think I think. They don't seem to know enough yet - or they are not catching the symptoms. I am sure that fibromyalgia is tied in with the thyroid in a big way. So far, the only sure thing they seem to recognize is that is is both neurological and endocrinogical - and that most folks affllicted have endured unreal stresses. Much like PTSD without the flashbacks.
I am so sad today and I'm sure its because of this new asthma thing going on and the fm and then last night I awoke with a problem swallowing properly. I already have a thyroid mass under there, that hasn't been a problem so far, but if it obstructs swallowing and/or breathing, it will have to be dealt with. I feel like I've been fighting for my life for so long that its getting tiresome. I am not suicidal, just feeling sorry for myself today. I apologize for being a whiner. I've ordered an expensive vaporizer to help with the herb for the fm, but I don't know about these asthma meds and what they may do to me. I am feeling very sorry for myself. I can't afford a therapist right now.

I am sorry I have not seen your posts sooner...

have your doctors said you have hyperthyroidism or hypothyroidism?

helenofjoy

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Posted: Aug 1, 2009 - 5:52pm

manbirdexperiment wrote:

Hey, come one now, things will get better. they always do. It's perfectly OK to have sympathy for yourself and to treat yourself with kindness just like you would for someone else.

Thanks Dude. I've read of your struggles so your sympathy is accepted with gratitude and respect. So wallowing in self pity is ok as long as I snap out of it by morning! Tonight I'm having more sherry than usual and avoiding contact with others.

Manbird

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Posted: Aug 1, 2009 - 5:50pm
helenofjoy wrote: So do you have to take thyroid medication? What on earth do you do? I thought thyroids were really important. Yeah, I take a supplement. Most of the time. It's pretty cheap. 14 bucks a month. When I'm broke I take half a dose and it doesn't seem to hurt me.

Manbird

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Posted: Aug 1, 2009 - 5:47pm

helenofjoy wrote:

Hey, come one now, things will get better. they always do. It's perfectly OK to have sympathy for yourself and to treat yourself with kindness just like you would for someone else.

helenofjoy

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Posted: Aug 1, 2009 - 5:46pm
manbirdexperiment wrote: I don't have one. one less thing to worry about. So do you have to take thyroid medication? What on earth do you do? I thought thyroids were really important.

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Posted: Aug 1, 2009 - 5:46pm

helenofjoy wrote:

Wish I could give you more, but I am running out the door. {#Hug}

helenofjoy

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Posted: Aug 1, 2009 - 5:45pm

Manbird

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Posted: Aug 1, 2009 - 5:43pm

helenofjoy wrote:

I don't have one. one less thing to worry about.

helenofjoy

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Posted: Aug 1, 2009 - 5:40pm

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Posted: Jul 30, 2009 - 11:20am
black321 wrote: Florida looks like its got "shrinkage" compared to Norway/Sweden It's a grower not a shower.

black321

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Posted: Jul 30, 2009 - 11:06am
ScottFromWyoming wrote: Florida looks like its got "shrinkage" compared to Norway/Sweden

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jul 30, 2009 - 9:39am
jadewahoo wrote: And all this time I thought it was FLORIDA that was bad for my health.

jadewahoo

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Posted: Jul 30, 2009 - 9:33am

Lazy8 wrote:

This is a thoroughly-debunked myth. Don't fall for it.

Here are some citations you can look up for papers in this area by actual biochemists and medical researchers:

Fluorine and thyroid gland function: a review of the literature.

Effects of fluoride on thyroid hormone biosynthesis. Studies in a highly sensitive test system

Sodium Hexafluorosilicate and Fluorosilicic Acid Review of Toxicological Literature

Long-term Effects of Various Iodine and Fluorine Doses on the Thyroid and Fluorosis in Mice.

The thyroid's function is inhibited by a shortage of iodine, but unless the dosage of fluoride is extremely high it has no effect on the thyroid. Its effects (on the thyroid) in high doses is reversible—but by the time thyroid function is inhibited many other more-acute symptoms appear.

The anti-fluoride movement has been quite dishonest in its hysteria. Their style of out-of-context quotes from medical literature reminds me of...well, other conspiracy theorists.

And all this time I thought it was FLORIDA that was bad for my health.

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Posted: Jul 30, 2009 - 9:32am
jagdriver wrote: Ahhhh..... so it WAS/WASN'T a Russkie plot! Of course it is!

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