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Nov 12, 2023 - 7:55am
kcar wrote:
Yeah, I'd agree with your line of thinking. Songs today don't seem to offer the same range of emotional experiences that songs from the 70s did. I don't hear as much wistfulness or yearning or tenderness. And I can't imagine a ballad like "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" getting airplay today.
One of the reasons I don't like rap very much is whole mentality of staying hard, swaggering and rejecting compassion. The tendency to stick to a tight rhyme scheme and jumble ideas together into a pastiche make rap briefly fascinating but really tiresome if you have to listen to it for more than 20 minutes at a go.
But there's still great music still being made. Just watched the video to Olivia Rodrigo's "Driver's License" and wow she really captured the gut-wrenching pain of lost love.
Maybe a gold standard would be something like âIâd really love to see you tonight.â Can you imagine that now? Or even our national anthem âGet Togetherâ?
Yes, thereâs some good music out there, but it just doesnât feel as friendly. Lordeâs stuff was a breath of fresh air and Iâm an unabashed Harry Styles worshipper.
I don't miss that "granola-rock" stuff from the 1970s, and that song in particular, always seemed cloying and saccharine to me. I think there is still plenty of music with unrequited love themes and "friendly" tendencies, it just may not be the top-selling stuff these days.
I think there is a difference in attitudes, like you point out. Maybe the 1960s and '70s seemed to offer more promise or positivity to people in their teens, 20s, and 30s back then, than there is for people in those age groups today. That could be reflected in the music I suppose.
Maybe a gold standard would be something like âIâd really love to see you tonight.â Can you imagine that now? Or even our national anthem âGet Togetherâ?
Yes, thereâs some good music out there, but it just doesnât feel as friendly. Lordeâs stuff was a breath of fresh air and Iâm an unabashed Harry Styles worshipper.
there's a guy at work and he has lived and traveled the globe
i hear old country and folk coming out of his office quite often
not long ago i heard him playing harry styles and i didn't know who it was
i asked and he didn't tell me immediately
the office was quiet so i left my door open and just listened
Yeah, I'd agree with your line of thinking. Songs today don't seem to offer the same range of emotional experiences that songs from the 70s did. I don't hear as much wistfulness or yearning or tenderness. And I can't imagine a ballad like "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" getting airplay today.
One of the reasons I don't like rap very much is whole mentality of staying hard, swaggering and rejecting compassion. The tendency to stick to a tight rhyme scheme and jumble ideas together into a pastiche make rap briefly fascinating but really tiresome if you have to listen to it for more than 20 minutes at a go.
But there's still great music still being made. Just watched the video to Olivia Rodrigo's "Driver's License" and wow she really captured the gut-wrenching pain of lost love.
Yeah, I'd agree with your line of thinking. Songs today don't seem to offer the same range of emotional experiences that songs from the 70s did. I don't hear as much wistfulness or yearning or tenderness. And I can't imagine a ballad like "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" getting airplay today.
One of the reasons I don't like rap very much is whole mentality of staying hard, swaggering and rejecting compassion. The tendency to stick to a tight rhyme scheme and jumble ideas together into a pastiche make rap briefly fascinating but really tiresome if you have to listen to it for more than 20 minutes at a go.
But there's still great music still being made. Just watched the video to Olivia Rodrigo's "Driver's License" and wow she really captured the gut-wrenching pain of lost love.
Maybe a gold standard would be something like âIâd really love to see you tonight.â Can you imagine that now? Or even our national anthem âGet Togetherâ?
Yes, thereâs some good music out there, but it just doesnât feel as friendly. Lordeâs stuff was a breath of fresh air and Iâm an unabashed Harry Styles worshipper.
In old man mode, Iâm remembering that songs seemed to be more about romance or loss of it, or freedom and exploration. Whereas now, admittedly stereotypically, thereâs less real navel gazing, less community, and more individualism - songs about how powerful the person asserts themselves to be in the face of all their âchallenges.â
I know I can easily come up with exceptions, but Iâm talking about the tone in general. Fewer songs want to buy the world a Coke.
Yeah, I'd agree with your line of thinking. Songs today don't seem to offer the same range of emotional experiences that songs from the 70s did. I don't hear as much wistfulness or yearning or tenderness. And I can't imagine a ballad like "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" getting airplay today.
One of the reasons I don't like rap very much is whole mentality of staying hard, swaggering and rejecting compassion. The tendency to stick to a tight rhyme scheme and jumble ideas together into a pastiche make rap briefly fascinating but really tiresome if you have to listen to it for more than 20 minutes at a go.
But there's still great music still being made. Just watched the video to Olivia Rodrigo's "Driver's License" and wow she really captured the gut-wrenching pain of lost love.
In old man mode, Iâm remembering that songs seemed to be more about romance or loss of it, or freedom and exploration. Whereas now, admittedly stereotypically, thereâs less real navel gazing, less community, and more individualism - songs about how powerful the person asserts themselves to be in the face of all their âchallenges.â
I know I can easily come up with exceptions, but Iâm talking about the tone in general. Fewer songs want to buy the world a Coke.
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Nov 11, 2023 - 7:25am
oldviolin wrote:
It was early winter of '77. I was stationed in Butzbach, W. Germany. I still have the piece of concrete. Its sort of shaped like a thick slice of pie and weighs around 1.5 lbs.
Got me right between the eyes and took 17 stitches to close. Not as much blood as one might think but anyway I bet I taught that chunk of fun a lesson. It left a scar shaped like a cross. I wasn't debilitated though. I mean, it stunned me and blacked both my eyes. Looking back I shouldn't have sent my Mother the picture. I looked pretty bad and she wasn't amused. Besides it will never look as cool as my Dad's scar which he got as a kid. He got hit between the eyes with the end of a bicycle handlebar when he was 12 or something. It left a scar that looked like a clock, or at least I thought it did. It had a hand on it and I can't remember exactly the hour it pointed to, but I'm sure it was perfect timing. Just like my date with an innocent looking snowball...
When did you suffer that debilitating head-injury?
It was early winter of '77. I was stationed in Butzbach, W. Germany. I still have the piece of concrete. Its sort of shaped like a thick slice of pie and weighs around 1.5 lbs. Got me right between the eyes and took 17 stitches to close. Not as much blood as one might think but anyway I bet I taught that chunk of fun a lesson. It left a scar shaped like a cross. I wasn't debilitated though. I mean, it stunned me and blacked both my eyes. Looking back I shouldn't have sent my Mother the picture. I looked pretty bad and she wasn't amused. Besides it will never look as cool as my Dad's scar which he got as a kid. He got hit between the eyes with the end of a bicycle handlebar when he was 12 or something. It left a scar that looked like a clock, or at least I thought it did. It had a hand on it and I can't remember exactly the hour it pointed to, but I'm sure it was perfect timing. Just like my date with an innocent looking snowball...
no kidding.