The court has not entered anything. There is yet to be a finding of anything official entered. A jury verdict by itself means nothing until a judge acts on it.
I can only conclude that steeler is afraid to answer a simple yes or no question for fear of the reaction he may get.
allow me to point to the relevant string of words:
a finding of guilt by a jury
Did you really say Steeler's afraid to get into a semantics argument with you? I mean, who wouldn't be, because you will just give him a water-torture stream of nonsense until he throws in the towel.
The State of New York defines Conviction as "Conviction - When the court enters a plea of guilty or a finding of guilt by a jury or the Court." https://ww2.nycourts.gov/COURT... The State of Florida goes a step further to specify "the term “convicted” means, with respect to a person's felony offense, a determination of guilt which is the result of a trial or the entry of a plea of guilty or nolo contendere, regardless of whether adjudication is withheld." https://www.tcpalm.com/story/n...
The court has not entered anything. There is yet to be a finding of anything official entered. A jury verdict by itself means nothing until a judge acts on it.
I can only conclude that steeler is afraid to answer a simple yes or no question for fear of the reaction he may get.
What, are you upset that I brought up the fact that Trump is a felon and adjudicated rapist? Or that there's strong evidence that he was sexually involved with at least one underage girl?
Or maybe there's another innocent reason that Trump regularly called Jeffrey Epsteinâeven at 5 amâfor massage appointments. Do tell.
As for Katie Johnson...I guess she doesn't count for you. Because Trump.
You're a certifiable nutbar with a potty mouth and a complete inability to conduct even the most basic of research before you fire volley after volley of incendiary statements.
I don't think some of the regular participants in these political topics have any grasp at all how the vile tone pointlessness of their posts actually harms RP.
Case in point, that which is quoted.
Fixed yer post.
What, are you upset that I brought up the fact that Trump is a felon and adjudicated rapist? Or that there's strong evidence that he was sexually involved with at least one underage girl?
Or maybe there's another innocent reason that Trump regularly called Jeffrey Epsteinâeven at 5 amâfor massage appointments. Do tell.
As for Katie Johnson...I guess she doesn't count for you. Because Trump.
A conviction is an adjudication of a criminal defendantâs guilt
The adjudication part is when the judge makes their final determination ... which has not happened and to paraphrase the judge (cuz I'm not going to spend time looking for the actual quote), may not happen ...
Here is the support for my remarks about convictions
Lawyer â President Trump is not actually a convicted felon. Media outlets should be careful.
I spent a fair amount of time researching the meaning of adjudication regarding the Trump case where he was adjudicated a rapist by the judge, in conflict with the jury's finding of sexual abuse in the case. The judge inserted his opinion, not fact in making his finding. That is a very important distinction which everyone (who posts on the subject) ignores. They want to call him a convicted rapist.
The State of New York defines Conviction as "Conviction - When the court enters a plea of guilty or a finding of guilt by a jury or the Court." https://ww2.nycourts.gov/COURT...
The State of Florida goes a step further to specify "the term âconvictedâ means, with respect to a person's felony offense, a determination of guilt which is the result of a trial or the entry of a plea of guilty or nolo contendere, regardless of whether adjudication is withheld." https://www.tcpalm.com/story/n...
So is Trump a convicted felon or not as we sit here right now ?
Is it premature or not ?
That is what matters as the lust here to call Trump a "convicted felon" is at a fever pitch.
No, we all already know he's a convicted felon. No lust needed.
It's your recent feeble attempt to try and state otherwise that is at issue here. I went back and saw that it wasn't you who originally posted what you are trying to pass off as "proof"... but until it was posted... you weren't trying to argue otherwise. Sorry but what you're throwing up against the wall... ain't stickin'.
So is Trump a convicted felon or not as we sit here right now ? Is it premature or not ? That is what matters as the lust here to call Trump a "convicted felon" is at a fever pitch.
conviction - A judgment of guilt against a criminal defendant.
You did not directly answer the clearly stated question.
Is he or isn't he a "convicted felon" as we sit here right now ?
A conviction is an adjudication of a criminal defendantâs guilt
The adjudication part is when the judge makes their final determination ... which has not happened and to paraphrase the judge (cuz I'm not going to spend time looking for the actual quote), may not happen ...
This debate is really about semantics. The jury issued its verdict of guilty on all 34 felony counts. The judge can accept or reject a jury verdict. The judge enters a judgment. Trump has been granted leave to file a motion to set aside the jury verdict based on the Supreme Court immunity decision. It is possible that the judge will set aside the jury’s verdict and enter a judgment of acquittal. The motion will be briefed. That is why the judge delayed sentencing.
So is Trump a convicted felon or not as we sit here right now ?
Is it premature or not ?
That is what matters as the lust here to call Trump a "convicted felon" is at a fever pitch.
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
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Jul 8, 2024 - 2:59pm
This debate is really about semantics.
The jury issued its verdict of guilty on all 34 felony counts.
The judge can accept or reject a jury verdict. The judge enters a judgment.
Trump has been granted leave to file a motion to set aside the jury verdict based on the Supreme Court immunity decision.
It is possible that the judge will set aside the juryâs verdict and enter a judgment of acquittal. The motion will be briefed. That is why the judge delayed sentencing.
It was laughed at by everyone (who bothered to comment) then.
I missed it; is it too late to laugh at it now? It's true-ish that a conviction without a sentence is nothing, but conviction is when the gavel comes down "guilty." Sentencing is a different matter. https://www.law.cornell.edu/we...
There, fixed the statement. Better now ?
From you link.
A conviction is an adjudication of a criminal defendant’s guilt
The adjudication part is when the judge makes their final determination ... which has not happened and to paraphrase the judge (cuz I'm not going to spend time looking for the actual quote), may not happen ...
Here is the support for my remarks about convictions
Lawyer — President Trump is not actually a convicted felon. Media outlets should be careful. I spent a fair amount of time researching the meaning of adjudication regarding the Trump case where he was adjudicated a rapist by the judge, in conflict with the jury's finding of sexual abuse in the case. The judge inserted his opinion, not fact in making his finding. That is a very important distinction which everyone (who posts on the subject) ignores. They want to call him a convicted rapist.
