Biden brought it up out of the blue in one of his ramblings about how Trump is unfit and why he (Biden) decided to run for office the first time and using it again for this election. I took immediate notice of that with the accusation so freshly being refuted by Snopes. I was surprised (not really) that Biden still trotted it out with its validity being crushed so recently. Just another example to me of how shameless and deceitful Biden is.
I see that Biden brought up Charlottesville all by himself, repeated the now thoroughly debunked lie
So Trump was talking about Charlottesville being debunked too. What? Fill me in on the thinking there.
Biden brought it up out of the blue in one of his ramblings about how Trump is unfit and why he (Biden) decided to run for office the first time and using it again for this election. I took immediate notice of that with the accusation so freshly being refuted by Snopes. I was surprised (not really) that Biden still trotted it out with its validity being crushed so recently. Just another example to me of how shameless and deceitful Biden is.
This might turn out to be the best thing. Joe steps aside and the deep, high quality Democratic bench with younger people step up. Fingers crossed. This might have been a fantastic opportunity.
Really? Your proof is a soundbite on Colbert? 𤣠If you are really going to split hairs (which is exactly what you are doing) earlier in the interview he says he was going to run but what clinched it for him was Charlottesville. I wouldn’t take that as the only reason he ran but feel free to put your spin on it. Oh, and I don’t see where the lie is. Trump had every opportunity to clearly denounce what happened there but failed to do so.
Hey there, little buddy !
As I'm going through the parts of the debate I missed I see that Biden brought up Charlottesville all by himself, repeated the now thoroughly debunked lie and restated how it was the deciding factor to run.
Worse is that Biden is so committed to this lie, he really believes that what he is saying is true. And you are just as committed to supporting the lie as your guy Biden is.
So, yeah, I'm correct in what I stated on the subject. .
Edit : So how does the guy you saw tonight compare to the guy you saw in this not very old video clip ?
No. I am in no way trying to be mean. Just trying to be real. Applying the same metric to both sides. You're perceptions are getting in the way. imho.
You're funny, ha ha. Yeah someone like me, an inveterate liar as mentioned below, is capable of gaslighting anyone here.
I would say that making a claim like that is an insult to the intelligence of the people here in general.
Who listens to someone with zero cred and takes them seriously ? You really think that is how I spend my time here ?
All I am is a speedbump on your road to hell. I'm just reminding you all here that there are other points of view which most here find distasteful not to mention illegitimate, self delusional and hateful.
So what you are saying is that if you have your own reasons for protesting that you should not show up at a protest unless you are willing to be lumped with the worst of those who also show up to protest, regardless of who sponsors the protest.
Man you are thick⦠how long ago did you crawl out from under that rock? Use a little common sense⦠the answer is âYesâ donât show up. Rule of thumb⦠if White Supremists and/or Nazis and/or the Klan show up⦠itâs time to leave⦠no matter how noble your intentions.
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So what you are saying is that if you have your own reasons for protesting that you should not show up at a protest unless you are willing to be lumped with the worst of those who also show up to protest, regardless of who sponsors the protest.
Got it.
Your relentless equivocation and binary thinking is, um, "impressive."
The other critique is that Trump, by saying there are "very fine people on both sides," drew moral equivalence between those who unite and demonstrate with Nazis, and those who demonstrate against them.
Those are the actual criticisms, which Snopes ignores." But please, continue to equivocate and align with fascists. I don't know about anyone else here, but I'm certainly not surprised.
So what you are saying is that if you have your own reasons for protesting that you should not show up at a protest unless you are willing to be lumped with the worst of those who also show up to protest, regardless of who sponsors the protest.
And by defending Trump you have no problem calling me a fascist.
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Finally. Biden's whole reason for running for POTUS is finally proven the lie that it is. 7 years too late. Just like Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation.
Behold, your holy grail for truth, Snopes, finally comes clean ... What took them so long ?
Everyone of you* lefty regulars here bought into and defended it tooth, nail and claw. I and a couple of others said it was outright BS and we were called racist. bigots and / or fascists by everyone of you.
I have no nice words for any of you and an apology from any of you would be worthless at this point. You will keep believing the liars and defend them to your and the country's death.
It is Biden who is destroying democracy. You all have it very backwards.
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* I can definitely say that Proclivities is not one. He always takes the high road in any of these discussions.
"So yes, it's true Trump didn't come out and say 'The Nazis are very fine people." But this isn't the actual problem with Trump's words, and it never was, and the first problem with the Snopes article is that it pretends that this was the problem, and frames it as a fact check, in order to debunk it.
The actual complaint isn't that Trump directly called the Nazis "very fine people," but rather that there is a distinction to be found between Nazis and those aligned with Nazis, and that the distinction is meant to be meaningful specifically because these allies, unlike Nazis, are "very fine." The other critique is that Trump, by saying there are "very fine people on both sides," drew moral equivalence between those who unite and demonstrate with Nazis, and those who demonstrate against them.
Those are the actual criticisms, which Snopes ignores."
But please, continue to equivocate and align with fascists. I don't know about anyone else here, but I'm certainly not surprised.