No. I am in no way trying to be mean. Just trying to be real. Applying the same metric to both sides. You're perceptions are getting in the way. imho.
You're funny, ha ha. Yeah someone like me, an inveterate liar as mentioned below, is capable of gaslighting anyone here.
I would say that making a claim like that is an insult to the intelligence of the people here in general.
Who listens to someone with zero cred and takes them seriously ? You really think that is how I spend my time here ?
All I am is a speedbump on your road to hell. I'm just reminding you all here that there are other points of view which most here find distasteful not to mention illegitimate, self delusional and hateful.
So what you are saying is that if you have your own reasons for protesting that you should not show up at a protest unless you are willing to be lumped with the worst of those who also show up to protest, regardless of who sponsors the protest.
Man you are thick⦠how long ago did you crawl out from under that rock? Use a little common sense⦠the answer is âYesâ donât show up. Rule of thumb⦠if White Supremists and/or Nazis and/or the Klan show up⦠itâs time to leave⦠no matter how noble your intentions.
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Jun 25, 2024 - 8:37am
kurtster wrote:
So what you are saying is that if you have your own reasons for protesting that you should not show up at a protest unless you are willing to be lumped with the worst of those who also show up to protest, regardless of who sponsors the protest.
Got it.
Your relentless equivocation and binary thinking is, um, "impressive."
The other critique is that Trump, by saying there are "very fine people on both sides," drew moral equivalence between those who unite and demonstrate with Nazis, and those who demonstrate against them.
Those are the actual criticisms, which Snopes ignores." But please, continue to equivocate and align with fascists. I don't know about anyone else here, but I'm certainly not surprised.
So what you are saying is that if you have your own reasons for protesting that you should not show up at a protest unless you are willing to be lumped with the worst of those who also show up to protest, regardless of who sponsors the protest.
And by defending Trump you have no problem calling me a fascist.
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Jun 25, 2024 - 7:30am
kurtster wrote:
Finally. Biden's whole reason for running for POTUS is finally proven the lie that it is. 7 years too late. Just like Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation.
Behold, your holy grail for truth, Snopes, finally comes clean ... What took them so long ?
Everyone of you* lefty regulars here bought into and defended it tooth, nail and claw. I and a couple of others said it was outright BS and we were called racist. bigots and / or fascists by everyone of you.
I have no nice words for any of you and an apology from any of you would be worthless at this point. You will keep believing the liars and defend them to your and the country's death.
It is Biden who is destroying democracy. You all have it very backwards.
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* I can definitely say that Proclivities is not one. He always takes the high road in any of these discussions.
"So yes, it's true Trump didn't come out and say 'The Nazis are very fine people." But this isn't the actual problem with Trump's words, and it never was, and the first problem with the Snopes article is that it pretends that this was the problem, and frames it as a fact check, in order to debunk it.
The actual complaint isn't that Trump directly called the Nazis "very fine people," but rather that there is a distinction to be found between Nazis and those aligned with Nazis, and that the distinction is meant to be meaningful specifically because these allies, unlike Nazis, are "very fine." The other critique is that Trump, by saying there are "very fine people on both sides," drew moral equivalence between those who unite and demonstrate with Nazis, and those who demonstrate against them.
Those are the actual criticisms, which Snopes ignores."
But please, continue to equivocate and align with fascists. I don't know about anyone else here, but I'm certainly not surprised.
Congratulations on finding today's strangest autocorrect association. We really don't want to preserve your comments, we're just sad you keep coming back. If we knew the magic combination we would use it more often.
Imagine the hubris required to assume you speak for all when you repeatedly use "we".
islander wrote:
I hope you get another job interview soon though.
Ah, look: condescension. It's your middle name.
Am happy to have triggered you so hard, once again.
Ewww. Had to go to urban dictionary to see what you're calling me now. Pretty sure that's a violation of William's TOS, but hey, you be you, triggered-boi.
And yes, islander, trust you to bring it up (irrelevant to this thread and non sequitur appearance that it is) - we can all see who you're referring to: moi. What none of you know, and I truly mean NONE, is my motivation for initiating a wholesale and speedy delete of ALL the posting (and ALL song commenting!) history of the previous incarnation. That decision remains sound and I wouldn't change it one iota. In this incarnation, I haven't seen need for a repeat of a data delete. For those of you so desperate to preserve some of my greatest hits, there have always been many ways to do this, with even the most basic screenshots accomplishing same.
You can speculate all you want on why that data was removed - and with careful thought, which few here seem capable of, you may come close to one (or more?) possible reasons. I can assure you that no one here has the full picture - nor the primary reason. And yet, I am back, not deleting anything at all (yet!). Make of that what you will.
Congratulations on finding today's strangest autocorrect association. We really don't want to preserve your comments, we're just sad you keep coming back. If we knew the magic combination we would use it more often. I hope you get another job interview soon though.
This is just another instance where you shake your head and wonder WTF Kurt's point is?
Listen to the video he posted... of Biden on Colbert. Listen to the explanation (from the starting point...about 45 seconds until just past the 4-minute mark). Everything he says is 100%, absolutely true. Kurt twists the entire discussion into "he ran on a lie"? Huh? Why? WTF is he trying to prove by even posting this?
MAGA faithful are so lost in the weeds of conspiracy, the deep state, the Biden crime family, and whatever else the Libs are doing to destroy America (in his head), that they can't see the entire discussion is built on the morally corrupt comment Trump made. Trump gave oxygen to white supremacy. It's not a question... it's a fact.
Trump has proven himself to be an amoral, self-dealing, lying, cheating hypocrite. Based on his attacks against our democracy, our Constitution, our institutions, and our rule of law, he is also treasonous. He is an adjudicated sexual abuser, an adjudicated business fraud and now he is a convicted felon.
Thinking that Trump is going to save anything beyond himself is somewhere between dishonest and stupid. I've posted before, to support Trump, you have to be racist, stupid, and/or selfish. They are not mutually exclusive.
For the record, anyone running for President's primary motivation is ego. Any rational, reasonable person would know they aren't up to that responsibility.
I think often he doesn't have a point. He just finds things that he thinks people have slammed Trump about that he feels he should not have been called to task for and shoehorns that into a thread. Throw it at the wall and see if it sticks.
MAGA faithful are so lost in the weeds of conspiracy, the deep state, the Biden crime family, and whatever else the Libs are doing to destroy America (in his head), that they can't see the entire discussion is built on the morally corrupt comment Trump made. Trump gave oxygen to white supremacy. It's not a question... it's a fact.
You missed his claim Biden's whole presidency was based on a lie since his primary motivation for running at all was the Charlottesville quote.
This is just another instance where you shake your head and wonder WTF Kurt's point is?
Listen to the video he posted... of Biden on Colbert. Listen to the explanation (from the starting point...about 45 seconds until just past the 4-minute mark). Everything he says is 100%, absolutely true. Kurt twists the entire discussion into "he ran on a lie"? Huh? Why? WTF is he trying to prove by even posting this?
MAGA faithful are so lost in the weeds of conspiracy, the deep state, the Biden crime family, and whatever else the Libs are doing to destroy America (in his head), that they can't see the entire discussion is built on the morally corrupt comment Trump made. Trump gave oxygen to white supremacy. It's not a question... it's a fact.
Trump has proven himself to be an amoral, self-dealing, lying, cheating hypocrite. Based on his attacks against our democracy, our Constitution, our institutions, and our rule of law, he is also treasonous. He is an adjudicated sexual abuser, an adjudicated business fraud and now he is a convicted felon.
Thinking that Trump is going to save anything beyond himself is somewhere between dishonest and stupid. I've posted before, to support Trump, you have to be racist, stupid, and/or selfish. They are not mutually exclusive.
For the record, anyone running for President's primary motivation is ego. Any rational, reasonable person would know they aren't up to that responsibility.
Kurtster explained that Snopes labeled as false the characterization of Trump saying there were âvery fine peopleâ in Charlottesville that day as referencing neo-Nazis and White supremacists; this was just like Hunter Bidenâs laptop being dismissed as Russian disinformation; everyone here believes these lies, which is why he is done with us; all of which proves Joe Biden is the real threat to democracy
Caught up?
You missed his claim Biden's whole presidency was based on a lie since his primary motivation for running at all was the Charlottesville quote.
Kurtster explained that Snopes labeled as false the characterization of Trump saying there were âvery fine peopleâ in Charlottesville that day as referencing neo-Nazis and White supremacists; this was just like Hunter Bidenâs laptop being dismissed as Russian disinformation; everyone here believes these lies, which is why he is done with us; all of which proves Joe Biden is the real threat to democracy
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Posted:
Jun 25, 2024 - 3:53am
Steely_D wrote:
Looks like I need to stand back and stand by.
(Why is this in the Biden forum?)
Kurtster explained that Snopes labeled as false the characterization of Trump saying there were âvery fine peopleâ in Charlottesville that day as referencing neo-Nazis and White supremacists; this was just like Hunter Bidenâs laptop being dismissed as Russian disinformation; everyone here believes these lies, which is why he is done with us; all of which proves Joe Biden is the real threat to democracy
