Red_Dragon wrote:

Of course
1) there is no "war on Christmas"
2) you have always been able to wish someone a Merry Christmas
3) no one apologizes for being white (despite Frank Zappa's wish)
4) crap like this is just a fake persecution and content fear mongering that is endemic in the GOP message. ("They're your enemies! Only we billionaires are your friends!")

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
Don't worry dave, you can still  apologize for being white.  It is the least that you can do ...

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Just helping the SS stamp out undesirable memes

Only the highest standards
JD Vance went kayaking for his birthday. Secret Service had the river level raised

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 kurtster wrote:

What color is the sky on your planet, kurt? Seriously.

 Proclivities wrote: 
Sounds sarcastic to me. 

Or ironic in a way different from what you thought.

He's pointing out the presumed virtues the audience represents and with their behaviour, these virtues go out the window simply based upon disapproval of a particular person.

Vice President JD Vance gets booed at The Kennedy Center
"This video should challenge us all to commit to making the Kennedy Center a place where everyone is welcomed," writes Kennedy Center President Richard Grenell, a Trump appointee who is also the special presidential envoy for special missions, on X. "It troubles me to see that so many in the audience appear to be white and intolerant of diverse political views. Diversity is our strength. We must do better. We must welcome EVERYONE. We will not allow the Kennedy Center to be an intolerant place."
I thought "intolerant",, "welcome", and especially "diversity" were prohibited words under this administration.  Irony is still alive.

JD Vance: The Immigration Crisis, How Polls Are Used to Fool You, and the Left’s Plan to Stop Trump

I wish we could have stuck with the couch-f*cker meme but there it is...

JD Vance on CNN this morning with Dana Bash, just openly admitting the stories he and Trump made up the stories they are pushing regarding Haitian immigrants.
When Bash (sort of) calls him on it, Vance said "If I have to create stories to get the media to pay attention then that’s what I’ll do!"

Even Bash, who is MAGA adjacent was nonplused and there was a long moment of dead air where she tried to get Vance to see the absurdity of what he just said.
Instead Vance just doubled down on it.

Vance claims he and Trump have to "create stories" about migrants eating cats and dogs "so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people."
Basically, if I have to lie and demonize innocent people and they are then targeted for violence by my hateful unhinged followers, I will. Collateral damage. So what? Because that's what it takes to scare Republicans into voting for me.

I don't care how you slice it, that's right out of the Josef Goebbels Reich Minister of Propaganda playbook.

~Jim Wright

 thisbody wrote:

It's taken me a long time to realize that English is not your primary language. 

 Beaker wrote:

This is rich, coming from someone who mostly behaves like his/her muppet avatar. 

"The anti-gun types here" are focused on a lot more than America's ready access to guns. I think everyone recognizes that even a ban and seizure on assault-style weanons won't stop mass killings in the US. The root causes for this kind of violence are far deeper than ready access to guns. 

That's why "the anti-gun types here" want to go beyond common-sense gun control measures and support more funding for counseling, violence intervention and community services. A mass killing like a school shooting is just the end point in a long string of social and economic problems. As I see it, a mass shooter thinks they've run out of options to improve their lives or get along with others. 

People here bring up these shootings to point out how badly broken our society CAN BE. People like you who criticize "anti-gun types" refuse to look at the deeper problems and think that if we just harden our schools (like JD Vance suggested) and arm our teachers, things will be fine. People like you DON'T want to fund psychological counseling or community outreach efforts. People like you things the 2nd Amendment trumps everything else and that our government and society shouldn't impose any responsibility on gun owners. 

Root causes ————- make me puke!
As if anything else would be responsible - just say -out of the blue sky- for the killings. Dead bodies everyday from the fucking country that names itself home of the free.

Translate that.

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
It's imbeciles' reasoning. Or major financial fuck-ups.
Money over life, y 'know. It will be a question asked of us:
Are you willing to be a murderer (have you been)?

Future societies will be strict on this, not showing much patience towards you cowboy shootists.


Yes you in need of a peaceful brain-implant!

 Beaker wrote:

Of course they do, but if we attempt to restrict access to guns while the person is seeking or put into treatment, we're violating their 2A rights. According to some. 

 Beaker wrote:

Well, speaking of dishonest, a lot of people have made a lot of suggestions. Suggestions based on examples from other places that worked. But you and several other people insist on 'no limits on guns of any kind'. So the rest of us have said "well then, what is your solution". To which we get more cops, mental health, blah, blah, blah. But we've done all that and still have the problem.  We have tried to focus on the shooters with red flag laws and the like, but we are told that those are unconstitutional restrictions on a person's liberty.  So we wait, and more people die, and pro2a people tell us 'too soon', 'thoughts and prayers', 'we'll always have crazy people', but they never put forth any notable proposal other than 'more guns'. So we've armed teachers, we've put SROs in schools, we have armed the populace with 'shall issue' concealed carry permits so that everyone around is armed. People now carry guns to the movies and to go get groceries. Sometimes their kids get ahold of them and kill themselves while we shop (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/8...). Then when a political candidate from the party of all guns all the time, makes remark and says "fact of life", you bumble down a sematic rat hole diagraming sentences and pointing at commas to justify that he wasn't minimizing gun violence... despite the fact that gun violence is now just a fact of life. Then you get in a huff when we say you are minimizing gun violence.

The fanaticism around the 2nd amendment is a recent development. The NRA was a hunting club until the late 70's. Here's an interesting podcast with some good background for those who care: https://radiolab.org/podcast/radiolab-presents-more-perfect-gun-show.  Other places have figured this out (Canada for instance), but America is a gun.