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Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:34pm

 rosedraws wrote:

Really?

NH is something like 1/3 "Undeclared".  When you go to the Primary, you have to choose a side, and you are given that ticket.  Then, on your way out, you just go up to the desk and make yourself "undeclared" again.  It's a great system.

Our current absolutely loony state congress is doing everything possible to limit access to voting... not allowing students to vote, requiring picture ID... maybe they'll try to switch to the Ohio Primary system next...
 
Oklahoma is like Ohio. They do their level best to ensure a two party ONLY system.
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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:33pm

 kurtster wrote:

I don't know how it is in Oregon, but in Ohio, unless you pick a ' D ' or an ' R ' for your voter registration card, you cannot vote in Primaries, only the General Elections.  By claiming ' I ' you have disenfranchised yourself from participating in shaping the general election. 

I have never seen this aspect of being an ' I ' discussed here.  Saying ' I ' limits your voice.  Its something that is wrong with our system, that we must chose sides in order to vote in certain elections, although it is for national outcomes.  It does help perpetuate the two party system, which needs to be scrapped IMO.

 
Really?

NH is something like 1/3 "Undeclared".  When you go to the Primary, you have to choose a side, and you are given that ticket.  Then, on your way out, you just go up to the desk and make yourself "undeclared" again.  It's a great system.

Our current absolutely loony state congress is doing everything possible to limit access to voting... not allowing students to vote, requiring picture ID... maybe they'll try to switch to the Ohio Primary system next...

Umberdog

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:11pm

 kurtster wrote:

Our President, a typical democrat, gave Brazil the dough.  I guess that you didn't hear about that deal ?

I don't know how it is in Oregon, but in Ohio, unless you pick a ' D ' or an ' R ' for your voter registration cardm, you cannot vote in Primaries, only the General Elections.  By claiming ' I ' you have disenfranchised yourself from participating in shaping the general election. 

I have never seen this aspect of being an ' I ' discussed here.  Saying ' I ' limits your voice.  Its something that is wrong with our system, that we must chose sides in order to vote in certain elections, although it is for national outcomes.  It does help perpetuate the two party system, which needs to be scrapped IMO.

But here we are.

Condoms break, get a vasectomy.
 
You're right... I can't vote in the primaries... which is really pretty stupid.

I would like to see a weighted ballot, where you can vote for more than one candidate, assigning first and second choice. But seeing as they can barely count the votes as it is, that would probably end up a nightmare. We would need less "Partying" and more parties for it to work. I think Australia does something like this, but they have lots of parties, not just two.

Parties were supposed to supply a degree of "checks and balances" to the erection process, but it's just turned into a boxing match of us against them.

I'm okay with vasectomies if you are.


kurtster

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 5:58pm

 Umberdog wrote:

You had $12 billion!!! O.O?

I must not be a typical Democrat.
*checks voter registration*
Ah, that's right, I'm an independent. One of those "swing-voters" that are supposed to change the political tide at erection time.

I'm against coal and nuclear power too.

Time to turn out some lights and put on some condoms.
 
Our President, a typical democrat, gave Brazil the dough.  I guess that you didn't hear about that deal ?

I don't know how it is in Oregon, but in Ohio, unless you pick a ' D ' or an ' R ' for your voter registration card, you cannot vote in Primaries, only the General Elections.  By claiming ' I ' you have disenfranchised yourself from participating in shaping the general election. 

I have never seen this aspect of being an ' I ' discussed here.  Saying ' I ' limits your voice.  Its something that is wrong with our system, that we must chose sides in order to vote in certain elections, although it is for national outcomes.  It does help perpetuate the two party system, which needs to be scrapped IMO.

But here we are.

Condoms break, get a vasectomy.


Umberdog

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 5:30pm

 kurtster wrote:
And a typical Democrat says go ahead and drill for oil in the deep ocean off your shores (Brazil), and here is $12 Billion of our taxpayer's my money to help and we will be your biggest customer and pay full retail.
 
You had $12 billion!!! O.O?

I must not be a typical Democrat.
*checks voter registration*
Ah, that's right, I'm an independent. One of those "swing-voters" that are supposed to change the political tide at erection time.

I'm against coal and nuclear power too.

Time to turn out some lights and put on some condoms.

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 5:21pm

 Umberdog wrote:
Why don't greedy ingrates care about anything beyond themselves? It's like all of creation has been set aside for them and no one or nothing else. They have even warped their religion to this end. All they want is more, more, MORE!

Typical Republican:
Who cares about the health of the Earth... let our kids worry about that... I want another oil rig and I want it NOW! I don't care if there is a place RESERVED for wildlife... change the fu..ing law so I can have my OIL RIG! NOW!!! Thank you Jeez-US!



 
And a typical Democrat says go ahead and drill for oil in the deep ocean off your shores (Brazil), and here is $12 Billion of our taxpayer's my money to help and we will be your biggest customer and pay full retail.


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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 5:06pm

Why don't greedy ingrates care about anything beyond themselves? It's like all of creation has been set aside for them and no one or nothing else. They have even warped their religion to this end. All they want is more, more, MORE!

Typical Republican:
Who cares about the health of the Earth... let our kids worry about that... I want another oil rig and I want it NOW! I don't care if there is a place RESERVED for wildlife... change the fu..ing law so I can have my OIL RIG! NOW!!! Thank you Jeez-US!


kurtster

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 4:52pm

 Beaker wrote:

The view changes once one is sitting behind that big ol desk in the Oval office.  

So the choices are either Obama is a big fat liar who told y'all what you wanted to hear, or George Dubya wasn't such a terrible guy after all.  Or both!

Tough one.   

 

Its like Senator Obama was against raising the debt ceiling and now President Obama is for raising it.


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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 11:28am

 Rod wrote:


Only if they're the slow, clumsy zombies. The fast zombies kick major ass.

 

Agreed.  Given the current obese state of most of the population of this continent I'm thinking slow and stupid clumsy is what we're in for.
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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 11:23am

 JrzyTmata wrote:

I'd rather face a zombie apocalypse
 

Only if they're the slow, clumsy zombies. The fast zombies kick major ass.
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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 11:18am

 oldslabsides wrote:
I gave up on the whole survive after the collapse of society thing when I realized that in a world of seven billion people unless you can make your home in one of the very few remaining truly remote areas of the planet, you're screwed.
 
True. Just the sheer numbers. You can't possibly kill 'em all. Having a private island would help, but still, look at the masses of people who come here on boats.

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 10:57am

 JrzyTmata wrote:

I'd rather face a zombie apocalypse
 
I'd rather be a vampire Jedi cyborg from Krypton.
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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 10:55am

 oldslabsides wrote:

I gave up on the whole survive after the collapse of society thing when I realized that in a world of seven billion people unless you can make your home in one of the very few remaining truly remote areas of the planet, you're screwed.
 
I'd rather face a zombie apocalypse

Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 10:48am

 kurtster wrote:

That's exactly what I'm thinking. 

A 5 acre lot ought to be big enough for all that.

There are still a fair amount of places like that nearby, and still within an hour of the big city.
 
I gave up on the whole survive after the collapse of society thing when I realized that in a world of seven billion people unless you can make your home in one of the very few remaining truly remote areas of the planet, you're screwed.

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 10:42am

 kurtster wrote:

That's exactly what I'm thinking. 

A 5 acre lot ought to be big enough for all that.

There are still a fair amount of places like that nearby, and still within an hour of the big city.
  I've got 20 acres about an hour from town. I'd need a water well/rain collection, but I doubt there's any gas or oil. Plenty of trees for fuel in a pinch. Right now the biggest problem is lack of rain!


kurtster

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 10:36am

 cc_rider wrote:
Your own gas well, that would be cool. No way to know how big the deposit is, but even a small one would prolly supply a household for years and years. Throw in some solar and wind sources, and energy won't really be a problem.

 
That's exactly what I'm thinking. 

A 5 acre lot ought to be big enough for all that.

There are still a fair amount of places like that nearby, and still within an hour of the big city.

cc_rider

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 10:23am

 kurtster wrote:

Nope, meant a natural gas well.  We have lots of lots around here with gas and oil wells on them here in NE Ohio.  I would allow a gas well on my property.  If the mineral rights are gone, the property owner generally still gets free gas.  Works for me.

Guns and ammo were sorta assumed.  {#Wink}

Nice crossbow for sure as well for catching dinner.
  Your own gas well, that would be cool. No way to know how big the deposit is, but even a small one would prolly supply a household for years and years. Throw in some solar and wind sources, and energy won't really be a problem.


kurtster

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 10:19am

 cc_rider wrote:

I think you mean a big propane tank. Which will run out eventually, but hey.

Natural gas (methane) is piped in. You ain't gettin' off the grid that easy, bub.

Oh yeah, you forgot the guns and ammo to fend off marauders.

Just sayin'.
 
Nope, meant a natural gas well.  We have lots of lots around here with gas and oil wells on them here in NE Ohio.  I would allow a gas well on my property.  If the mineral rights are gone, the property owner generally still gets free gas.  Works for me.

Guns and ammo were sorta assumed.  {#Wink}

Nice crossbow for sure as well for catching dinner.

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 9:42am

 Beaker wrote:

So what you are saying is you'll make the available facts fit the story, after the nom.  

Thus your statement of  "an Evangelical" ... "currently that is the litmus test to win the Republican nomination. " is not based upon any available fact, and therefore must merely be your own personal opinion.

Glad you made the extra effort to clarify that.


 

 

Indeed, because just like Obama, whatever the nominee's personal beliefs, he or she will have to act and play the part of an evangelical or they will not be nominated, take it to the bank. I do not have to believe, give effort or say anything. Just observe.


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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 9:30am

 Beaker wrote:

Says who?  You?  

Right.
 

 

We'll see, and I can tell you I told you so after the Republican nomination.{#Yes}
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