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kurtster

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Posted: Jul 11, 2011 - 5:30pm

ScottFromWyoming wrote:

So if they can't reach an agreement, that's okay, just don't raise the debt ceiling? Are you one of those?

If Republicans force a default, what will happen to ordinary people (so not like Eric Cantor who will make a fortune)? “Say goodbye to 642,500 jobs... Add nearly $19,175 to every mortgage in process. Lop 1% off the United States GDP. Give the S&P a 6.3%-plus haircut. 401(k)’s lose an average of $8,816.” http://nyti.ms/rtoHr0

Not raising the debt ceiling does not insure default. There are many work arounds. We have heard the phony cry of wolf too many times, and if its real, let's get it done, its only a matter of time anyway.

But I really do believe the cry of wolf is phony. The banksters just want another handout. F'em.

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jul 11, 2011 - 4:05pm

kurtster wrote:

I'm one of those Americans who doesn't want it {the debt ceiling} raised.

So if they can't reach an agreement, that's okay, just don't raise the debt ceiling? Are you one of those?

If Republicans force a default, what will happen to ordinary people (so not like Eric Cantor who will make a fortune)? “Say goodbye to 642,500 jobs... Add nearly $19,175 to every mortgage in process. Lop 1% off the United States GDP. Give the S&P a 6.3%-plus haircut. 401(k)’s lose an average of $8,816.” http://nyti.ms/rtoHr0

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Posted: Jul 11, 2011 - 4:02pm
kurtster wrote: Fine with me. US involvement in war has increased 50% with this administration. Bring our troops home, the sooner the better. ...need gas money.. ?

kurtster

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Posted: Jul 11, 2011 - 3:36pm
ScottFromWyoming wrote: That it's not the right problem. The problem is the cuts the GOP wants to make. Instead of undercutting all the good things this country's achieved in our parents' lifetimes, why not cut down on the number of casket flags needed? Fine with me. US involvement in war has increased 50% with this administration. Bring our troops home, the sooner the better.

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Posted: Jul 11, 2011 - 3:23pm
kurtster wrote: I'm one of those Americans who doesn't want it raised. What am I missing in my understanding of the problem ? That it's not the right problem. The problem is the cuts the GOP wants to make. Instead of undercutting all the good things this country's achieved in our parents' lifetimes, why not cut down on the number of casket flags needed?

kurtster

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Posted: Jul 11, 2011 - 3:16pm
hippiechick wrote: I would say that those Americans who do not want the debt ceiling raised lack a complete understanding of the problem. Reagan Admin raised the debts ceiling 8 times. The Republicans want to raise it too, they just want to be shits about it. I'm one of those Americans who doesn't want it raised. What am I missing in my understanding of the problem ?

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Posted: Jul 11, 2011 - 3:04pm

kurtster wrote:

Meanwhile, back at the Whitehouse, Obama insists on ignoring a 2 to 1 majority of Americans who do not want the debt ceiling raised.

He says we must eat our peas.

Who does he think he is ?

I would say that those Americans who do not want the debt ceiling raised lack a complete understanding of the problem.

Reagan Admin raised the debts ceiling 8 times.

The Republicans want to raise it too, they just want to be shits about it.

kurtster

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Posted: Jul 11, 2011 - 3:00pm
dmax wrote: A Republican? What does that have to do with peas ? Besides, Obama has already out raised Bushs' debt ceiling increase in two years to Bushs' eight.

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Posted: Jul 11, 2011 - 2:48pm
dmax wrote: A Reublican? King

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Posted: Jul 11, 2011 - 2:47pm
kurtster wrote: Meanwhile, back at the Whitehouse, Obama insists on ignoring a 2 to 1 majority of Americans who do not want the debt ceiling raised. He says we must eat our peas. Who does he think he is ? A Republican?

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Posted: Jul 11, 2011 - 2:33pm
Meanwhile, back at the Whitehouse, Obama insists on ignoring a 2 to 1 majority of Americans who do not want the debt ceiling raised. He says we must eat our peas. Who does he think he is ?

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 9:30pm

romeotuma wrote:

great picture...

Obama's Original Sin
by Frank Rich
New York Magazine
July 3, 2011

The president's failure to demand a reckoning from the moneyed interests who brought the economy down has cursed his first term, and could prevent a second.

Matt Taibbi is more than one of the best journalists in our solar system— he is practically a prophet... I gotta feeling this will come to a head when Elizabeth Warren gets on the pulpit come July 14...

Frank Rich Blasts Obama For Letting Wall Street Off the Hook
by Matt Taibbi
Rolling Stone

A lot of people are talking about Frank Rich's explosive new article in New York magazine. I think it is a remarkable thing, the latest and maybe the most comprehensive in an increasingly lengthy series of articles and investigations into the Obama administration's failure to properly investigate the causes of the financial crisis.

By now this is not quite a mainstream media drumbeat, but it's coming close: between the reporting of Louise Story and Gretchen Morgenson at the New York Times to the recent not-terribly-laudatory piece on New York Southern District U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara by the New Yorker's George Packer, to Eliot Spitzer's bitter commentary on the subject on CNN, to my own bleatings, and now this Rich broadside, it seems quite clear that the Obama administration's failure to clean up Wall Street is becoming a matter of some fascination with the few investigative journalists who are not covering the Casey Anthony case.

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 8:05pm
Rod wrote: Only if they're the slow, clumsy zombies. The fast zombies kick major ass. Go away you noisy speed demon.

kurtster

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:59pm
Umberdog wrote: I vote for social collapse. We could all partake in a moment of human history! Old guy talking to young guys: Yeah, I was around during the social collapse of 2011... we figured the Mayans had it square in their calender and it would all be over by 2012. Aw well, those was good times! Get off my lawn ! FYT

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:57pm
I vote for social collapse. We could all partake in a moment of human history! Old guy talking to young guys: Yeah, I was around during the social collapse of 2011... we figured the Mayans had it square in their calender and it would all be over by 2012. Aw well, those was good times!

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:53pm
kurtster wrote: I'm not getting ready for a societal collapse, I'm just cheap. that's your story and you're stickin' to it!

kurtster

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:52pm
oldslabsides wrote: I gave up on the whole survive after the collapse of society thing when I realized that in a world of seven billion people unless you can make your home in one of the very few remaining truly remote areas of the planet, you're screwed. I'm not getting ready for a societal collapse, I'm just cheap.

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:51pm

kurtster wrote:

In Ohio, the voter does have the right to switch parties before voting at sign in. But the right to challenge their switching parties exists as well. If the vote is challenged, it then becomes a provisional vote subject to consideration usually only if a vote is close enough for a recount. Independents will get issue only ballots during primaries. They can vote on levies and laws, but not candidates.

I've got no problem with photo ID, but then again, I keep that stuff in order. I am required to show proof of residence at the address I am claiming. A bank statement or utility bill is sufficient. My DL does have a different address, but that is for reasons of having a CDL and a state medical license.

I hadn't realized it (or forgot...) Apparently 19 states have closed primaries where only declared party members can vote.

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:50pm

kurtster wrote:

Our President, a typical democrat, gave Brazil the dough. I guess that you didn't hear about that deal ?

I don't know how it is in Oregon, but in Ohio, unless you pick a ' D ' or an ' R ' for your voter registration card, you cannot vote in Primaries, only the General Elections. By claiming ' I ' you have disenfranchised yourself from participating in shaping the general election.

I have never seen this aspect of being an ' I ' discussed here. Saying ' I ' limits your voice. Its something that is wrong with our system, that we must chose sides in order to vote in certain elections, although it is for national outcomes. It does help perpetuate the two party system, which needs to be scrapped IMO.

But here we are.

Condoms break, get a vasectomy.

I'm a registered independent. I don't get to vote in the primaries. I don't particularly care who each of the two big political clubs decide to support. I don't even care how they choose who to support - they could meet in a smoke-filled room and pick names from a hat or sell the nomination to the highest bidder. It makes no difference to me.

There's no law that says you have to vote D or R. You don't even have to vote for the candidates on the ballot. If there's someone you like better, vote for them.

kurtster

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:43pm

rosedraws wrote:

Really?

NH is something like 1/3 "Undeclared". When you go to the Primary, you have to choose a side, and you are given that ticket. Then, on your way out, you just go up to the desk and make yourself "undeclared" again. It's a great system.

Our current absolutely loony state congress is doing everything possible to limit access to voting... not allowing students to vote, requiring picture ID... maybe they'll try to switch to the Ohio Primary system next...

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