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steeler
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
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Oct 26, 2011 - 7:18am |
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Thanks to everyone for the help last evening. Much appreciated.
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Manbird
Location: La Villa Toscana Gender:
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Oct 25, 2011 - 10:21pm |
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BlueHeronDruid wrote:He managed. It wasn't pretty. Such things never are. Sigh.
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BlueHeronDruid
Location: Заебани сме луѓе
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Oct 25, 2011 - 9:40pm |
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Leslie wrote:Just pat him on the knee and say, "There you go." He managed. It wasn't pretty.
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Leslie
Location: Antioch, CA Gender:
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Oct 25, 2011 - 9:30pm |
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BlueHeronDruid wrote:Re: proprietary batteries hobbitt got his latest camera some time back. Proprietary battery. No worries, right? As he likes to go on extended photo safaris, it seemed natural for him to order a second battery. Except it wasn't available for purchase in US for almost a year after he bought the camera. He doesn't do frustrated very well. Just pat him on the knee and say, "There you go."
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BlueHeronDruid
Location: Заебани сме луѓе
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Oct 25, 2011 - 9:29pm |
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Re: proprietary batteries hobbitt got his latest camera some time back. Proprietary battery. No worries, right? As he likes to go on extended photo safaris, it seemed natural for him to order a second battery. Except it wasn't available for purchase in US for almost a year after he bought the camera. He doesn't do frustrated very well.
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NoEnzLefttoSplit
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Oct 25, 2011 - 9:22pm |
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Leslie wrote:Has anyone checked out the new Nikon J1? I saw a commercial for it last night. It fits in your pocket, but apparently you can change lenses.
interesting
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Leslie
Location: Antioch, CA Gender:
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Oct 25, 2011 - 8:52pm |
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swell_sailor wrote: It's evil.
The Nikon is evil? Did one leave you for another camera owner?
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swell_sailor
Location: The Gorge Gender:
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Oct 25, 2011 - 8:46pm |
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ScottFromWyoming wrote:thread killa! No, I haven't. It's evil.
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ScottFromWyoming
Location: Powell Gender:
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Oct 25, 2011 - 8:41pm |
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Leslie wrote:Has anyone checked out the new Nikon J1? I saw a commercial for it last night. It fits in your pocket, but apparently you can change lenses. thread killa! No, I haven't.
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Leslie
Location: Antioch, CA Gender:
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Oct 25, 2011 - 7:45pm |
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Has anyone checked out the new Nikon J1? I saw a commercial for it last night. It fits in your pocket, but apparently you can change lenses.
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ScottFromWyoming
Location: Powell Gender:
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Oct 25, 2011 - 7:44pm |
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Xeric wrote: This is also—in case anybody's teetering on the edge—a reason to go DSLR over point-and-shoot or super zoom. That large body means a huge battery: my old (five or six years—ancient) Nikon D70 will take a zillion shots on a charge. I don't know how many exactly, but I know that pretty intensely photographic road trips of up to a week don't burn through both of my two (proprietary) batteries. . . . The Canon G7 I borrowed a few years ago ran—with the screen on most of the time—for 12 hours on a charge. Hundreds of photos, some video, and I almost never turned it off. More judicious use could have taken it a lot further. But we're getting pretty far afield from Steeler's parameters
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buzz
Location: up the boohai
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Oct 25, 2011 - 7:42pm |
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I just took a quick look at the Canon site. The Elphs look pretty good. If I was buying, I would probably go with the 310HS. I like the 5X zoom. Which ever camera you buy, GET A SECOND BATTERY. Don't leave home without it. You have been warned. I would also recommend an 8GB card. You should be able to do your whole vacation and not have to worry about running out of space. Always shoot at the highest quality settings.
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swell_sailor
Location: The Gorge Gender:
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Oct 25, 2011 - 7:38pm |
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ScottFromWyoming wrote: My main objection to the nonstandard battery is the worry if not reality that I'll get stuck without charged batteries, and can't just pop into the 7-11 for some Rayovacs. In practice that rarely happens but I'm nervous that way. I myself want to get a G12 or s100 and the battery thing isn't going to change that. I just thought it would be important to point out. It's a good thing to consider for sure. I know people who refuse to buy a camera that doesn't use AA batteries. There seem to be advantages and disadvantages to each.
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Xeric
Location: Montana Gender:
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Oct 25, 2011 - 7:36pm |
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ScottFromWyoming wrote: My main objection to the nonstandard battery is the worry if not reality that I'll get stuck without charged batteries, and can't just pop into the 7-11 for some Rayovacs. In practice that rarely happens but I'm nervous that way. I myself want to get a G12 or s100 and the battery thing isn't going to change that. I just thought it would be important to point out. This is also—in case anybody's teetering on the edge—a reason to go DSLR over point-and-shoot or super zoom. That large body means a huge battery: my old (five or six years—ancient) Nikon D70 will take a zillion shots on a charge. I don't know how many exactly, but I know that pretty intensely photographic road trips of up to a week don't burn through both of my two (proprietary) batteries. . . .
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ScottFromWyoming
Location: Powell Gender:
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Oct 25, 2011 - 7:33pm |
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swell_sailor wrote: Right. Eneloops are great. I'd recommend a good quality battery charger as well. This is not usually included with cameras that use AA batteries.
So if we consider a high quality charger, Eneloops and spare Eneloops, a spare Litium Ion battery doesn't looks so expensive. However as you pointed out earlier, Eneloops will typically have a higher MAH rating as compared to the included Lithium Ion battery.
My main objection to the nonstandard battery is the worry if not reality that I'll get stuck without charged batteries, and can't just pop into the 7-11 for some Rayovacs. In practice that rarely happens but I'm nervous that way. I myself want to get a G12 or s100 and the battery thing isn't going to change that. I just thought it would be important to point out.
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swell_sailor
Location: The Gorge Gender:
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Oct 25, 2011 - 7:02pm |
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ScottFromWyoming wrote:Both true, altho a healthy set of NiMH rechargeables will hold a charge quite a while longer than 3 weeks. Note the caveat "healthy." We like the Sanyo Eneloop batteries which are NiMH but they come pre-charged and hold a charge for years. Right. Eneloops are great. I'd recommend a good quality battery charger as well. This is not usually included with cameras that use AA batteries. So if we consider a high quality charger, Eneloops and spare Eneloops, a spare Litium Ion battery doesn't looks so expensive. However as you pointed out earlier, Eneloops will typically have a higher MAH rating as compared to the included Lithium Ion battery.
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ScottFromWyoming
Location: Powell Gender:
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Oct 25, 2011 - 6:59pm |
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swell_sailor wrote: One disadvantage to most AA rechargeable batteries is that if you don't use your camera for three weeks, when you pick it up to use it the batteries are likely dead. Not true of lithium ion batteries.
The included Canon batteries always look a little weak to me, but there are typically replacement batteries with a higher mha rating. Both true, altho a healthy set of NiMH rechargeables will hold a charge quite a while longer than 3 weeks. Note the caveat "healthy." We like the Sanyo Eneloop batteries which are NiMH but they come pre-charged and hold a charge for years.
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swell_sailor
Location: The Gorge Gender:
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Oct 25, 2011 - 6:50pm |
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ScottFromWyoming wrote:WARNING! The ELPH 100 et al use a nonstandard battery. You will want a spare, and can't just pop into the gas station and pick up spares. I've used another Canon that takes a little battery pack and it lasted all day, even if I didn't turn the camera off very often. But still, that's a lot different from having a camera that's absolutely no-worries. I'd look for one that takes AAs. The one we got our daughter uses 2 AA batteries, and our S3 uses 4. The battery packs last longer per charge, sometimes, but the one for the 100 you're looking at seems a little bit light (1200 mA? That's like one AA). So back to the drawing board. I'd say just stop into a store you like and see what they have. You can easily blow a lot of time trying to choose the perfect camera. One disadvantage to most AA rechargeable batteries is that if you don't use your camera for three weeks, when you pick it up to use it the batteries are likely dead. Not true of lithium ion batteries. The included Canon batteries always look a little weak to me, but there are typically third party replacement batteries available with a higher MHA rating. I'm not recommending one battery type over another. Cameras that use AA batteries are also typically larger. One other thing to consider when looking at a camera that uses AA batteries, is if they can also use CR-V3 type batteries. They aren't rechargeable, but they stay charged when sitting on the shelf, so they're great for a backup if you discover your batteries are dead from sitting too long.
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ScottFromWyoming
Location: Powell Gender:
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Oct 25, 2011 - 6:44pm |
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steeler wrote:I'm not real sure how much I would use the video, but I am assuming that most of the lower-end cameras come with that and if they don't have it,there also would be a dropoff in quality of photos —and not much benefit price-wise in dropping it?
The Canon PowerShot ELPH 100 HS 12.1 MP seems like it would work for me. Seems like I should be able to get it for around $130.
The Canon PowerShot ELPH 300 HS 12.1 MP is thinner and has 5x zoom, compared to 4x zoom for the 100 HS, along with other upgrades, but reviews call the 100 roughtly comparable in a lot of areas. The 300 HS would be around $190 or so.
Just so many to choose from. I want one that is easy to learn how to use in all aspects and is lightweight for travel. Most of my photos will be on vacations, and most would be outside, during the day. Would like ability, however, to take photos in low-light or at night.
Thanks for the help!
WARNING! The ELPH 100 et al use a nonstandard battery. You will want a spare, and can't just pop into the gas station and pick up spares. I've used another Canon that takes a little battery pack and it lasted all day, even if I didn't turn the camera off very often. But still, that's a lot different from having a camera that's absolutely no-worries. I'd look for one that takes AAs. The one we got our daughter uses 2 AA batteries, and our S3 uses 4. The battery packs last longer per charge, sometimes, but the one for the 100 you're looking at seems a little bit light (1200 mA? That's like one AA). So back to the drawing board. I'd say just stop into a store you like and see what they have. You can easily blow a lot of time trying to choose the perfect camera.
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swell_sailor
Location: The Gorge Gender:
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Oct 25, 2011 - 6:36pm |
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steeler wrote:
I just read review (Steve's digicams) on the IS and it sounds very similar to the ELPH. I'm not sure of the salient differences. The review said it is smaller than deck of cards, and the review for the ELPH said it was about the size of a deck of cards????
They are both small enough. Maybe the IS is better. .
The Elph has image stabilization too, even though it's not in it's name, right? The Elph has just as bright a lens as the A3300. Not as much zoom but just as wide at the wide end. Fewer megapixels. (which might actually be a good thing) Either would likely be a good choice.
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