He's allowed to be contrite about his actions and still have political beliefs, even daffy ones. Or should the defendant's politics enter into the way we're treated in court?
Here's a direct quote from the NPR article rgio linked to:
In his plea for leniency to the court, Pezzola said he had given up politics, yet as he was being escorted out of the courtroom he shouted, "Trump won!" repeating the baseless claim of election fraud that led rioters to storm the Capitol on Jan. 6.
Pezzola's sentence had already been handed down, so it's not clear to me that he was treated differently because he yelled "Trump won!" as he was led away. His yell does cast doubt on the sincerity of his claim to have given up politics and his plea for leniency.
It also makes me wonder what it would take for Pezzola to accept the fact that Trump lost fair and square. Apparently having his life and his family's lives turned upside down by a lengthy court case didn't shake his beliefs. I guess he didn't have time to read up on the Jan. 6 committee's findings or reportage on the validity of the election. He's gonna have lots of time to do that now.
Sure, he has the right to believe what he wants. He's not being put away for his beliefs. He got nine years for "assaulting, resisting or impeding certain officers and robbery involving government property. Unlike his co-defendants in the Proud Boys seditious conspiracy case, Pezzola was acquitted of that charge."
He's allowed to be contrite about his actions and still have political beliefs, even daffy ones. Or should the defendant's politics enter into the way we're treated in court?
"In his plea for leniency to the court, Pezzola said he had given up politics,"
A wise judge would've brought him back in and said, "so your whole regretful speech was a lie, it seems. First, now there's no reason to be lenient if you haven't repented. Second, putting on an act for the court is reprehensible. Let's take your sentence to what the prosecution recommended in the first place, then: twenty years. And - no, he didn't win and neither do you. Good day sir. I said, good day!"
He's allowed to be contrite about his actions and still have political beliefs, even daffy ones. Or should the defendant's politics enter into the way we're treated in court?
I don't disagree, but a judge needs to consider the facts, and his repentant speech, and that of anyone else on trial, is theory. The sentence was in line with others...so OK.
What that guy did...was screw every other Jan 6 accused from being able to ask for leniency...even if they are truly sorry for what they did.
A wise judge would've brought him back in and said, "so your whole regretful speech was a lie, it seems. First, now there's no reason to be lenient if you haven't repented. Second, putting on an act for the court is reprehensible. Let's take your sentence to what the prosecution recommended in the first place, then: twenty years. And - no, he didn't win and neither do you. Good day sir. I said, good day!"
I don't disagree, but a judge needs to consider the facts, and his repentant speech, and that of anyone else on trial, is theory. The sentence was in line with others...so OK.
What that guy did...was screw every other Jan 6 accused from being able to ask for leniency...even if they are truly sorry for what they did.
A wise judge would've brought him back in and said, "so your whole regretful speech was a lie, it seems. First, now there's no reason to be lenient if you haven't repented. Second, putting on an act for the court is reprehensible. Let's take your sentence to what the prosecution recommended in the first place, then: twenty years. And - no, he didn't win and neither do you. Good day sir. I said, good day!"
In his plea for leniency to the court, Pezzola said he had given up
politics, yet as he was being escorted out of the courtroom he shouted,
"Trump won!"
Queue the Stones...
A wise judge would've brought him back in and said, "so your whole regretful speech was a lie, it seems. First, now there's no reason to be lenient if you haven't repented. Second, putting on an act for the court is reprehensible. Let's take your sentence to what the prosecution recommended in the first place, then: twenty years. And - no, he didn't win and neither do you. Good day sir. I said, good day!"
In his plea for leniency to the court, Pezzola said he had given up
politics, yet as he was being escorted out of the courtroom he shouted,
"Trump won!"
I cannot see Trump having Vivek as VP unless it is presented to him as considerably increasing his chances of winning. Trump would not want anyone who might upstage him, and Vivek is no Mike Pence. He is a loose cannon, not a faithful companion dog.
plus he is more successful than chubby.
although both were pseudo democrats at one time, and then flip flopped.
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
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Aug 25, 2023 - 8:43am
ColdMiser wrote:
it was the best VP audition ever
I cannot see Trump having Vivek as VP unless it is presented to him as considerably increasing his chances of winning. Trump would not want anyone who might upstage him, and Vivek is no Mike Pence. He is a loose cannon, not a faithful companion dog.
He plagiarized Obamaâs âskinny guy with a funny nameâ line, called Trump the greatest President of the 21st century (âItâs a fact!â) and the obviously waffled on climate change. The guyâs a huckster con man. https://twitter.com/NvrBackDow...
He plagiarized Obamaâs âskinny guy with a funny nameâ line, called Trump the greatest President of the 21st century (âItâs a fact!â) and the obviously waffled on climate change. The guyâs a huckster con man. https://twitter.com/NvrBackDow...
This is honestly some of the scariest shit yet to come from the right. Facts, are what you want them to be....
From the NYTimes:
Last month, the Florida Department of Education announced that grade-school teachers could use videos produced by Dennis Pragerâs PragerU Kids in their classrooms.
PragerU is no more a university than Trump University was. In fine type at the bottom of its webpage, it admits that âPragerU is not an accredited university, nor do we claim to be. We donât offer degrees, but we do provide educational, entertaining, pro-American videos for every age.â
In reality, PragerU is little more than a propaganda media site. The Southern Poverty Law Center takes an even dimmer view of its credentials, saying, âPragerU seems to be yet another node on the internet connecting conservative media consumers to the dark corners of the extreme right.â
Soon, students could be watching videos like one produced by PragerU that features two children, Leo and Layla, who appear to be white, traveling back in time to talk to Christopher Columbus. In it, a cartoon Columbus says that the first Indigenous people he met when he landed in the Bahamas, the Taino, a subgroup of the Arawak, were âpeaceful, curious and really helpful.â Later, he says, âI ordered my men to treat them well.â
Howard Zinnâs âA Peopleâs History of the United Statesâ tells a different story, detailing how Columbus described the Arawak in his log at the time. âThey would make fine servants,â Columbus wrote. âWith 50 men, we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want.â
I can't embed the video, but here's a link to the Colombus video at the point they start discussing Chris meeting the natives.
