Robbie Robertson — The Vanishing Breed
Album: Music For The Native Americans (w/ The Red Road Ensemble)Avg rating:
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bitbanger wrote:
Yeah, I kind of see what you mean.
By the way, did you ever hear the album by Robby B and the Boyz from the Rez? I still love it after all these years.
Downgraded 8 -> 3. For my $0.02 this tune is starting to actually get embarrassing.
Yeah, I kind of see what you mean.
By the way, did you ever hear the album by Robby B and the Boyz from the Rez? I still love it after all these years.
Downgraded 8 -> 3. For my $0.02 this tune is starting to actually get embarrassing.
This sounds exactly like Mike Oldfield
tapatia1072 wrote:
That's Ms. "Know-It-All" to you, thank you very much. And you are most welcome - after all, a little education never hurts anyone. Of course, if you willfully shut your mind, I'm sure cracking the nut of your skull to open that mind within can be a little bit painful. Maybe in the end you'll find it's worth it to discard that shell of unenlightenment.
Good reply. I appreciated your initial post very much. Thank you.
That's Ms. "Know-It-All" to you, thank you very much. And you are most welcome - after all, a little education never hurts anyone. Of course, if you willfully shut your mind, I'm sure cracking the nut of your skull to open that mind within can be a little bit painful. Maybe in the end you'll find it's worth it to discard that shell of unenlightenment.
Good reply. I appreciated your initial post very much. Thank you.
Love it.
ick wrote:
more like Old Age music...as in timeless...
What's with the New Age music Robbie?
more like Old Age music...as in timeless...
coloradojohn wrote:
I just love the steady horse-walking rhythm, the heart-beat drums, the masterful use of guitar and other instruments, and all the fantastic ethereal Native American singing on this and every song on this masterpiece album that cracked my brain wide-open way back when it came out and still sends me into rapture every time I hear it. This is Rock Medicine. Listen: I am dancing beneath you...
I just love the steady horse-walking rhythm, the heart-beat drums, the masterful use of guitar and other instruments, and all the fantastic ethereal Native American singing on this and every song on this masterpiece album that cracked my brain wide-open way back when it came out and still sends me into rapture every time I hear it. This is Rock Medicine. Listen: I am dancing beneath you...
This is one of my favorite albums as well as my 22 year old son's! We played it while driving toward the red rock cliffs in Sedona Arizona..what a great family memory!
What's with the New Age music Robbie?
hbs47 wrote:
Well said tapatia.
Superb and spiritual album and a great track to boot.
The Band wasn't going any where. Robbie , has moved on.
I saw a recent(ish) documentary, he seemed very at ease with himself.
He has found a connection with his early roots, and used his musicianship to bring that to many others.
For that I thank him.
Superb and spiritual album and a great track to boot.
The Band wasn't going any where. Robbie , has moved on.
I saw a recent(ish) documentary, he seemed very at ease with himself.
He has found a connection with his early roots, and used his musicianship to bring that to many others.
For that I thank him.
Is the soundtrack for a Titanic remake?
A little tedious! 
Well said tapatia.
Superb and spiritual album and a great track to boot.
The Band wasn't going any where. Robbie , has moved on.
I saw a recent(ish) documentary, he seemed very at ease with himself.
He has found a connection with his early roots, and used his musicianship to bring that to many others.
For that I thank him.
Superb and spiritual album and a great track to boot.
The Band wasn't going any where. Robbie , has moved on.
I saw a recent(ish) documentary, he seemed very at ease with himself.
He has found a connection with his early roots, and used his musicianship to bring that to many others.
For that I thank him.
Argh! 
tapatia1072 wrote:
That's Ms. "Know-It-All" to you, thank you very much. And you are most welcome - after all, a little education never hurts anyone. Of course, if you willfully shut your mind, I'm sure cracking the nut of your skull to open that mind within can be a little bit painful. Maybe in the end you'll find it's worth it to discard that shell of unenlightenment.
OK, thanks, Zamfir. Now pipe down. BAAAAAAAhahahahahahahahahahaha
That's Ms. "Know-It-All" to you, thank you very much. And you are most welcome - after all, a little education never hurts anyone. Of course, if you willfully shut your mind, I'm sure cracking the nut of your skull to open that mind within can be a little bit painful. Maybe in the end you'll find it's worth it to discard that shell of unenlightenment.
OK, thanks, Zamfir. Now pipe down. BAAAAAAAhahahahahahahahahahaha
As I recall from the liner notes, Robbie has some native american roots. So he went back to research them and this album is a consequent collab with a lot of different well known artists in the native american scene. I don't think this is the best track off that album. But there is some neat stuff there. What IS amazing is the follow up album to this one called, Songs from the Redboy Underground or some such. He uses these same native american artists and adds a DJ for some tasteful electronica programming. String arrangements were then added by David Campbell (famous arranger). THAT one is an amazing album in my humble opinion.
cattail321 wrote:
That's Ms. "Know-It-All" to you, thank you very much. And you are most welcome - after all, a little education never hurts anyone. Of course, if you willfully shut your mind, I'm sure cracking the nut of your skull to open that mind within can be a little bit painful. Maybe in the end you'll find it's worth it to discard that shell of unenlightenment.
Thank You Mr. Know-it-all
tapatia1072 wrote:
For the record: What you and other listeners are hearing and labeling as "panpipes" is actually Native American flute. May sound like "New Age" garbage to your ears, but if you listened to other recordings by indigenous North American flautists, you would find many contemporary artists of that genre using this traditional instrument employ a similar sound and style, both of which are influenced by their cultural roots. "New Age" is for the most part a Western, non-indigenous movement which appropriates the artistic and spiritual traditions of other indigenous and pan-Asian cultures and dilutes them into derivative and mostly inferior - and in some cases downright offensive - forms. Given the artistic and cultural forces and history which shaped this music and the album itself, this song is anything but "New Age."
tapatia1072 wrote:
For the record: What you and other listeners are hearing and labeling as "panpipes" is actually Native American flute. May sound like "New Age" garbage to your ears, but if you listened to other recordings by indigenous North American flautists, you would find many contemporary artists of that genre using this traditional instrument employ a similar sound and style, both of which are influenced by their cultural roots. "New Age" is for the most part a Western, non-indigenous movement which appropriates the artistic and spiritual traditions of other indigenous and pan-Asian cultures and dilutes them into derivative and mostly inferior - and in some cases downright offensive - forms. Given the artistic and cultural forces and history which shaped this music and the album itself, this song is anything but "New Age."
That's Ms. "Know-It-All" to you, thank you very much. And you are most welcome - after all, a little education never hurts anyone. Of course, if you willfully shut your mind, I'm sure cracking the nut of your skull to open that mind within can be a little bit painful. Maybe in the end you'll find it's worth it to discard that shell of unenlightenment.
Overrated, sorry Robbie. This is a 3 and going down,
Thank You Mr. Know-it-all
tapatia1072 wrote:
For the record: What you and other listeners are hearing and labeling as "panpipes" is actually Native American flute. May sound like "New Age" garbage to your ears, but if you listened to other recordings by indigenous North American flautists, you would find many contemporary artists of that genre using this traditional instrument employ a similar sound and style, both of which are influenced by their cultural roots. "New Age" is for the most part a Western, non-indigenous movement which appropriates the artistic and spiritual traditions of other indigenous and pan-Asian cultures and dilutes them into derivative and mostly inferior - and in some cases downright offensive - forms. Given the artistic and cultural forces and history which shaped this music and the album itself, this song is anything but "New Age."
tapatia1072 wrote:
For the record: What you and other listeners are hearing and labeling as "panpipes" is actually Native American flute. May sound like "New Age" garbage to your ears, but if you listened to other recordings by indigenous North American flautists, you would find many contemporary artists of that genre using this traditional instrument employ a similar sound and style, both of which are influenced by their cultural roots. "New Age" is for the most part a Western, non-indigenous movement which appropriates the artistic and spiritual traditions of other indigenous and pan-Asian cultures and dilutes them into derivative and mostly inferior - and in some cases downright offensive - forms. Given the artistic and cultural forces and history which shaped this music and the album itself, this song is anything but "New Age."
iscoot4peace wrote:
For the record: What you and other listeners are hearing and labeling as "panpipes" is actually Native American flute. May sound like "New Age" garbage to your ears, but if you listened to other recordings by indigenous North American flautists, you would find many contemporary artists of that genre using this traditional instrument employ a similar sound and style, both of which are influenced by their cultural roots. "New Age" is for the most part a Western, non-indigenous movement which appropriates the artistic and spiritual traditions of other indigenous and pan-Asian cultures and dilutes them into derivative and mostly inferior - and in some cases downright offensive - forms. Given the artistic and cultural forces and history which shaped this music and the album itself, this song is anything but "New Age."
Let me guess? Zamfir...master of the Pan flute?
Robbie, Robbie! You left the band to do this? Mein Gott, man! 3
Robbie, Robbie! You left the band to do this? Mein Gott, man! 3
For the record: What you and other listeners are hearing and labeling as "panpipes" is actually Native American flute. May sound like "New Age" garbage to your ears, but if you listened to other recordings by indigenous North American flautists, you would find many contemporary artists of that genre using this traditional instrument employ a similar sound and style, both of which are influenced by their cultural roots. "New Age" is for the most part a Western, non-indigenous movement which appropriates the artistic and spiritual traditions of other indigenous and pan-Asian cultures and dilutes them into derivative and mostly inferior - and in some cases downright offensive - forms. Given the artistic and cultural forces and history which shaped this music and the album itself, this song is anything but "New Age."
this lifted me up
Very Santa Fe'ish.
ziggytrix wrote:
I have a similar reaction to an Asian-influence Pandora station I'm working on. Seeded with Yoshida Brothers and trained from there. It gets a lot of these generic Eastern Meditation CD tracks in the mix, which I usually thumb down, but very occasionally there's a really good song on one of those things.
I suppose my point is that while there is a metric crapton of rubbish in the genre, there are also a few real gems.
It's like the sex scene theme from a movie about Sittingbull.
I have a similar reaction to an Asian-influence Pandora station I'm working on. Seeded with Yoshida Brothers and trained from there. It gets a lot of these generic Eastern Meditation CD tracks in the mix, which I usually thumb down, but very occasionally there's a really good song on one of those things.
I suppose my point is that while there is a metric crapton of rubbish in the genre, there are also a few real gems.
It's like the sex scene theme from a movie about Sittingbull.
celadonstone wrote:
I have a similar reaction to an Asian-influence Pandora station I'm working on. Seeded with Yoshida Brothers and trained from there. It gets a lot of these generic Eastern Meditation CD tracks in the mix, which I usually thumb down, but very occasionally there's a really good song on one of those things.
I suppose my point is that while there is a metric crapton of rubbish in the genre, there are also a few real gems.
New age and similar music totally for a massage studio with the ubiquitous mini-fountain from Target flowing? New Age doesnt have a real good rap perhaps because its nothing in particular. Muzak usually waters down what was a real song once.
There isnt much to new age to water down. I see how this tune runs close to that style and why it is similarly loathed. This one doesnt bother me, but after a few more listens, it might.
There isnt much to new age to water down. I see how this tune runs close to that style and why it is similarly loathed. This one doesnt bother me, but after a few more listens, it might.
I have a similar reaction to an Asian-influence Pandora station I'm working on. Seeded with Yoshida Brothers and trained from there. It gets a lot of these generic Eastern Meditation CD tracks in the mix, which I usually thumb down, but very occasionally there's a really good song on one of those things.
I suppose my point is that while there is a metric crapton of rubbish in the genre, there are also a few real gems.
Let me guess? Zamfir...master of the Pan flute?
Robbie, Robbie! You left the band to do this? Mein Gott, man! 3
Robbie, Robbie! You left the band to do this? Mein Gott, man! 3
Good music, but I can't hear anything Robbie Robertson is involved in without thinking how he screwed the rest of The Band.
Do you know i think i might just hate panpipes? Well at least i can't think of a time i heard them and wasn't instantly irritated.
There is another song on this album where they literally recorded crickets, slowed them down about 20X and then had a Native American opera singer sing along. Wild...
mandolin wrote:
Contemporary Native American music doesn't get any more authentic nor heartfelt than this. From Paul Corio's Rolling Stone Review:
The TBS documentary "the Native Americans" was gorgeous, unsettling, provocative. So is Robertson's music for it. Robertson's mother was a Mohawk raised on Canada's Six Nations reservation; he now reclaims an earlier America and his own heritage. Heading the Red Road Ensemble Priscilla and Rita Coolidge, the Silver Cloud Singers, Ulali, and Douglas Spotted Eagle among its members Robertson combines the heartbeat percussion and keening vocals of indigenous music with pop and classical elements. Like Ennio Morricone, he has a gift for sound that's both stately and hip, primal and intricate. A shuddering sadness underlies such pieces, and that's proper this is primarily a chronicle of profound loss. But in the Native American poetry and the fused strength of guitar, strings, natural elements and found sound, there is celebration a ritual summoning of a spirit that lives yet.
Thank you! That is truly enlightening commentary.
Contemporary Native American music doesn't get any more authentic nor heartfelt than this. From Paul Corio's Rolling Stone Review:
The TBS documentary "the Native Americans" was gorgeous, unsettling, provocative. So is Robertson's music for it. Robertson's mother was a Mohawk raised on Canada's Six Nations reservation; he now reclaims an earlier America and his own heritage. Heading the Red Road Ensemble Priscilla and Rita Coolidge, the Silver Cloud Singers, Ulali, and Douglas Spotted Eagle among its members Robertson combines the heartbeat percussion and keening vocals of indigenous music with pop and classical elements. Like Ennio Morricone, he has a gift for sound that's both stately and hip, primal and intricate. A shuddering sadness underlies such pieces, and that's proper this is primarily a chronicle of profound loss. But in the Native American poetry and the fused strength of guitar, strings, natural elements and found sound, there is celebration a ritual summoning of a spirit that lives yet.
Thank you! That is truly enlightening commentary.
Perfect guitar-sound! Telecaster on neck position? 
Great track from a brilliant album.
Quick! Go check out Xeric's
"Most beautiful places..."
Journal with this on!
Some of the comments this one's generated are thoroughly amusing! 
Oh wow. I haven't heard this song in years. Not since my CD of this got stolen. I didn't know anyone else had even heard of the album. I really ought to buy myself a new copy.
very beautiful and spiritual.
This is pretty damn good,but I'd recomend Sacred Spirit.........Chants And Dances Of The Native Americans.
The most uplifting and heartfelt music I've heard for many a long year.
Thank you RP for playing this. Robbie Robertson has brought forth this jewel that I have personally shared with many adolescent Native American boys who I have worked with in the past. This music has welcomed the opportunity to awaken an authenticity many of these boys did not know existed. Music can healing and enlightening....and this particular mix has been well recieved.
(Not to mention I am a huge Robbie Robertson fan from way back)
rklein wrote:
I am sorry, but this is just kitsch to me. In German, I would say "weichgespÃŒlte Musik", i.e. music treated with fabric softener. It don't know much of native american music, but this piece walked too far from its origins towards New Age crap.
Wow. I will remember that term for future use.
Its great!
New age and similar music totally for a massage studio with the ubiquitous mini-fountain from Target flowing? New Age doesnt have a real good rap perhaps because its nothing in particular. Muzak usually waters down what was a real song once.
There isnt much to new age to water down. I see how this tune runs close to that style and why it is similarly loathed. This one doesnt bother me, but after a few more listens, it might.
For Native Americans playing blues and classic rock, see 'Indigenous'.
I think I could listen to this all day. Perhaps I should work in a new age gift shop selling crystals, Tarot cards and smudge sticks?
Art_Carnage wrote:
"Music For The Native Americans"
Haven't they been through enough already, without having to endure this?
This is actually pretty good. But, I got a good laugh out of you comment.
This whole CD is great! 
Oh dear... I feel like I've just stepped into a shop selling crystals, tarot cards and smudge sticks.
Why do all those stores have the same soundtrack?
Sorry, this one's not for me.
Art_Carnage wrote:
Haven't they been through enough already, without having to endure this?
Contemporary Native American music doesn't get any more authentic nor heartfelt than this. From Paul Corio's Rolling Stone Review:
The TBS documentary "the Native Americans" was gorgeous, unsettling, provocative. So is Robertson's music for it. Robertson's mother was a Mohawk raised on Canada's Six Nations reservation; he now reclaims an earlier America and his own heritage. Heading the Red Road Ensemble Priscilla and Rita Coolidge, the Silver Cloud Singers, Ulali, and Douglas Spotted Eagle among its members Robertson combines the heartbeat percussion and keening vocals of indigenous music with pop and classical elements. Like Ennio Morricone, he has a gift for sound that's both stately and hip, primal and intricate. A shuddering sadness underlies such pieces, and that's proper this is primarily a chronicle of profound loss. But in the Native American poetry and the fused strength of guitar, strings, natural elements and found sound, there is celebration a ritual summoning of a spirit that lives yet.
"Music For The Native Americans"
Haven't they been through enough already, without having to endure this?
ACK!!! You really got my hopes up for a second, thinking this was Trilogy by ELP, until about the third note on that synth.
jayvee2 wrote: Really beautiful.....
I agree.
my dad always puts on this cd on sundays and calls it "going to church"... cute!
rklein wrote:
And this after Bach by Loussier. What a drop! 
Agreed. This is about as bland as bland gets. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy's elevator.
like bad massage room music, and without the happy ending. blah
Rob, who used to play for Bob, is part Mohawk and grew up on the Six Nations Reserve (''reservation'' is U.S. style) near Brantford, Ontario, west of Toronto.
I'm not a big Robbie Robertson fan,but after hearing this and reading some of the song comments I may have to give this CD a further investigation...7 from me,I like the guitar fill...
And this after Bach by Loussier. What a drop!
psycholynx wrote:
It's giving me a King Crimson (lite) vibe. I like it.
Yah mon. Dat's what I was thinking too.
matchball wrote:
Would be some nice background music for porn.
I was going to comment on this song, but I think that this comment says it all, and no more need be said.
Would be some nice background music for porn.
I bought this album quote a few years ago, its very beautiful.
this is nice. I guess it has nothing to do with The Band.
I thought this sounded familiar --
It's the tune coming from the fake rock speakers at the outlet mall adjacent to the Indian casino An amazing album...stayed in my cd player for months on end. More "Americans" need to listen to this....beyond space and time...Wado!
sounds like this belongs on the Titanic soundtrack
Absolutely one of my favourite albums of all time!!! Thanks for playing it!
Comments indicate people love it or hate it... I'm on the love it side.
Hauntingly spiritual. Spiritually haunting.
Free wind chimes with every fecking album.
I feel generous giving it a one.
Nice stuff.
The guitar work sounds very similar to some of Mike Oldfield's stuff. Though in many respects, the quality of this track surpasses Oldfield by quite a stretch.
I am sorry, but this is just kitsch to me. In German, I would say "weichgespÃŒlte Musik", i.e. music treated with fabric softener. It don't know much of native american music, but this piece walked too far from its origins towards New Age crap.
twcarlin wrote: Just beautiful and has a healing, soothing quality.
Thanks RP! 
Now this is what RP is for- I'm pretty sure I would never of heard of this without it. Now I have to go buy the album...
Me too. Just beautiful and has a healing, soothing quality.
Thanks RP!
Now this is what RP is for- I'm pretty sure I would never of heard of this without it. Now I have to go buy the album...
Fat_Man_Flo wrote:
Lanois-ish?
Boring-ish!
Lanois-ish?
What's so cool is buying the cd, playing it until you are familiar with the entire disc, and then hearing them on HERE.
Go RP!
Love the climbing, wavering, rise of whatever instrument that is leading into the 'chorus'. Guitar? Is it possible??
A reverent 9.
Robbie is part of the First Nations of Canada.
Isn't RR native American?
outerspace wrote:
Commercial radio, who the hell needs commercial radio?
Now if I could only listen to Radio Paradise on ther road...
Oh, how many times I've echoed that sentiment! I swear, if I had RP in my Sidekick, my poor 10-CD changer would grow cobwebs.
This blows.
yawn...Zamfir anyone?
Robbie Robertson planetarium music.
Cool.
It's giving me a King Crimson (lite) vibe. I like it.
outerspace wrote:
Contact from the underword of redboy has some similar sounds and feelings on it. A bit more uptempo and thought provoking. Still very different from anything else out there and instantly recognisable as RR if you've heard this song. "Sacrifice"will piss you off, make you sad, and inspired.
Gotcha! Thanks again spacey!
Anybody have RR's other disc like this? Similar?
Contact from the underword of redboy has some similar sounds and feelings on it. A bit more uptempo and thought provoking. Still very different from anything else out there and instantly recognisable as RR if you've heard this song. "Sacrifice"will piss you off, make you sad, and inspired.
Quickly takes me to another place. Lovely!
I LOVE THIS SONG!!!!! it's like taking a bath
Yup!
This one is coming with us on our Mt. Rushmore trip. Anybody have RR's other disc like this? Similar?
Great contemporary native track. Pleasant and substantial. More of RR please.
Commercial radio, who the hell needs commercial radio?
Now if I could only listen to Radio Paradise on ther road...
trekhead wrote:
CALLED IT!!!
Guess they played this line-up already.
Still, A 9.
THANK YOU KINDLY for playing this.
Whole disc is a triumph!
See my post from last song.
Gee, do I win a prize if I guess what plays next?
Love the song....Love the whole CD....
Impressive! You played this song right after John Anderson's, "Seminole Wind". Has any R. Carlos Nakai or Robert Mirabel ever been played on RP?
more native american music!
CALLED IT!!!
BrokenArrow wrote:
If you like this song, definitely go get the CD. Very nice CD all the way through.
I concur completely. This CD is in my "Desert Island" collection for sure.
Good stuff from Mr. RB!
Nice theme on these last 3 btw...
If you like this song, definitely go get the CD. Very nice CD all the way through.
Yashure wrote:
Gorgeous - makes me feel ashamed to be white
Yeah you should White people are pasty!!!
Gorgeous - makes me feel ashamed to be white
This is beautiful.
I'm so happy to be hearing this song on RP! Thanks Bill & thanks to the person that uploaded it!
Fantastic! A thrill of pleasure!
This is quality music.
Thanks for playing it Bill!
I like this a lot.