Webfoot wrote:
 
I know.  I'd rather folks that didn't share his opinion (which is that that a good and decent person should have anyway) just didn't listen.  They're already not getting the music.  It's not like the man's opinions about how we should treat one another are not embedded IN that music.  

I mean, HELLO... Born In The USA.  The ghost of Tom Joad. Nebraska. Duh.

Unbelievable that people are critical of this song. Get a grip! Not his greatest but just enjoy it rather than looking for an unjustifiable negativity 

In a vacuum, it's pretty good! As a Springsteen song, it's, well, meh. But it's still pretty good!

Feels like a Song Du Jour, fer sure. 

All due respect to Norah Jones, but this should have won the Best Album Grammy in '03.

Springsteen is my favourite artist and I started listening to him in 1974. Sadly for me his music had largely and slowly gone downhill since his first three albums. I find this song to be incredibly boring, despite its context.

Around the time Bruce put out this album I recall there was a very popular country song that included the line that went something like "I don't know the difference between Iraq and Iran..."  I always felt we would be in a better place today if "The Rising" album had been embraced to the same level as that country song... 

 dmcanany wrote:
 
Yes i like it very much too, it's uplifting and full of hope

I like Springsteen, but damn, he can be dark. This is perhaps my favorite song of his because he melds his darkness with light and hope. For me, it's a deeply whole image of what life can be. 

 Webfoot wrote:
 
It seems that the level of bothered varies directly with how far the expressed opinion differs from the complainer's.

 Slickamoe wrote:
 
Or not. Why, does his opinion threaten you? Maybe just know he's a musician and a human being with thoughts and call it good..

Springsteen's glory passed when he began thinking his political opinion mattered to anyone other than himself. Same goes for any other artist who opens their mouth to do anything but sing! 

 CowboyJJ wrote: 

Well So much for my theory.

 msymmes wrote:
 


Posted 4 months ago by aspicer:OMG - from M. Davis to this?!  PSD to the rescue!

So cool to hear this today on Nov 9, 2018.  I just get the feeling Bill is selecting tracks manually, one at a time, this evening.

Does this "rising" having any relationship with a little blue pill?

Never thought much of this song. He's got much better material.

still zesty ! how many grammys did this win ? a few I remember

OMG - from M. Davis to this?!  PSD to the rescue!

jpbergjr wrote: no, it's not where you're raised. it's what you like. as jrich says, music hits nerves. that's the point. springsteen's been wowing crowds since his days in asbury park. but that doesn't mean the godfather of soul hasn't been, too. or that hendrix didn't or pink floyd or adrian belew or neil young or ... whoever. find what does it for you and get blown away. life is too short to dance to ugly bands?

trekhead wrote: No offense, but by everyone who constantly refers to the tragic events of September 11, 2001 as "9-11". It's become a catch-phrase, and thereby a marketing term, political tool, religious weapon, bumper sticker, (another reality show?), etc. As I said, no disrespect intended, the phrase has become commonplace, but don't let it devolve into just a phrase. Thanks. C. PS, that said, this song only ever sounded good when it was performed by Bruce on TV just after Sept. 11. Then it brought tears to my eyes.

this song is getting new life as the theme song on the Democratic campaign stops

stinky wrote: Ouch! How does one get nine-elevened OUT?

Recently, the NYT did an article about this album. Say what you want about Springsteen, but this was a well-researched, thoughtful album. There is likely a lot of opportunity to cash-in on a horrific event, but what happened in NY happened to people who are Bruce fans. People died who had been to 20+ concerts of his, had collections, etc. His band is composed of some of the industry\'s most respected session artists alive. All in all, you don\'t have to like Springsteen, but you don\'t rail away on pure emotion. (Or, then again, maybe that\'s what music is all about...elicting emotion and getting a reaction..... :oops: )

BOOOOO BOOOOOO BOOOOO

If this is his best, we could all have a laalaaalaugh at his worst! If not for recent tragic events this song would have been dumped long ago.

That's something I read and heard often in relation to Springsteen and the E streetband. Maybe they should record more live. I think all the tricks you can use in studios, especially nowadays, may work well for artists like Peter Gabriel and U2 and of course all Techno acts, but not that much for someone who's more a rock traditionalist like Springsteen. Just good acoustics, the right atmosphere and a producer to capture that, will do his songs justice, just like his live shows, IMO.

Again, I am shocked by the amount of mindless comments that come from what I believed to be an intelligent RP audience. Springsteen has always had a lot of depth to his music. It's too bad so many aren't listening.

It's unfortunate that so many people are dismissing "The Rising" and the other songs from this album as "sounds the same", "overproduced", "aaaaaaaa!" or "I hate Bruce so it can't POSSIBLY be a good album". The album clocks in a little long, but the overall mood and message of the album is second-to-none. Most of the album is, as has been mentioned, a response to September 11th. He uses his trademark storytelling skills on "The Rising", "Empty Sky", "You're Missing" and the more upbeat "Mary's Place" to give us his glimpses into the lives and emotions of those affected by that day. Most of the perfection of this album is in the ordering and placement of the songs on the album, taking us from a high to a low back to an emotional high again. The entire album isn't a morose eulogy to those who were lost, nor is it an upbeat, "everything's great!" collection of pop throwaway tunes. It strikes just the right chord for the current mood of a country just starting to deal with the longer-term effects of what September 11th means. I just saw him along with the E Street Band live in Kansas City, and after hearing 11 of the new songs live, I will admit that the album itself doesn't do justice to the songs. Now that he's had some time to perfect the sentiment and mood of the various songs on the album, the live versions are more powerful and less, as many of you claim the album to be, "overproduced". The arrangements are less weighty and grinding than some of their album counterparts. I loved the album versions of the songs, but now I'm trying to find myself a recording of the tour show because THOSE are the versions of the songs I want to listen to. Though I find that's the case with many of Springsteen's songs. I love the album versions of most of his work, but REALLY love the live versions more. And a quick final comment to "stinky" from their September 10th post about being "nine-elevened out". While I understand your sentiment, you're going to have to deal with nine-eleven-related material for years to come. Only now, a year later, are we starting to see products that have gone through the whole production cycle from our artists (musicians, actors, writers, etc) ... there will be more to come.

I\'ve decided I can\'t grade this song right now. It\'s still growing on me. I admit, the first time I heard it I came in in the middle, and the Li-li-li\'s didn\'t impress me very much. But lately, heard from the beginning and in its entirety, and having had a chance to hear (and read) the lyrics, this song is getting better with each hearing. I just don\'t know where it will end up on my music meter ... yet.

Reading the comments on this board it is clear that there has been an upRISING against Bruce. Clearly his music has affected you, the mark of a good artist. Ok, that was a little tongue-in-cheek - but still. This is not my favorite Bruce song either but his appeal is the energy he puts into all his performances and the fact that the subject matter of his music very very often appeals to the sensiblilities of a wide range of people. What rock and roll is all about.

Clearly someone who's never seen him play guitar, hasn't heard Bruce's best Roy Orbison like falsetto(shocked the sh*t out of me), and has never read his lyrics. I'm not saying the Rising is a great song, although I don't hate it as much as people here, but Thunder Road alone shows he can write lyrics, and the melody ain't bad either.

Scientific fact: 9 out of 10 Springsteen fans have more testosterone than brain cells.

AGAIN! Come on, you have forced me to endure this garbage too much for one week! PLEASE, WE NEED LESS BRUCE!

Enough already. Bruce was doing his best stuff 25 years ago. Another overplayed song. While we\'re at it, I\'m a bit nine-elevened out.

LMAO

YEAH ! THE BOSS !

PLEASE SHOOT ME NOW!

I think it's more the overproduction that makes them sound this way. The song would be a lot better if it were simpler and less conciously Bruce's anthem.

I\'m not a devotee, but I enjoy the music. This is a solid little tune (a few too many na-na-na\'s, maybe). For every Bruce Springsteen song played, that\'s one less Counting Crows or Moby song on the air.. heheh..

PLEASE SHOOT ME NOW! I am so sick of Bruce. I thought he was finally gone but here his crap is back again. Everytime I see his music in someone\'s CD collection they are lined up right beside their Britney Spears and Billy Ray Cyrus CDs.

Not half bad. I\'ll give it a 7.

The Rising is Bruce at his visceral best. Hands down the best rock album of the last 25 years. I\'m born & raised in San Francisco, California and I worship at Bruce\'s altar. You don\'t have to be from the East Coast to appreciate the sheer grandeur of his songwriting, especially when he performs with the E-Street Band. As others have said--if in doubt...see him Live, babay!

Thanks Kevin. I will consider that. Appreciate the thoughts. ... Mike

I can solve it for you. Go see him live. I've known more than a few people, including me, :P who werent' fans till they were dragged to a show. In fact, a good friend in Highschool hated springsteen. Boy friend took her to a show and she was converted. He's a little bit elvis a little bit preacher. And when tries, he can (or at least he could in 95) do a good approximatino of Roy Orbison. Definitely didn't think his voice could do that....especially since he sounded like Dylan on Tom Joad (and that's not good). As for The Rising, all it needs is a gospel choir, and I'd feel like I was at what I imagine a church in Harlem is like.

Every songwriter has got a recognizable hand of writing songs. So to say all of Mr. Springsteen\'s song sound the same hasn\'t got much meaning. At least try to explain what you don\'t like about his songs. From what I\'ve heard so far it\'s a very nice welcome back for this main force in rockmusic. With that I mean him and the E. street band.

I\'ve never got it with Springsteen. I guess you have to be from the East Coast or something. He sounds tired to me. Or maybe just tiring. Sorry Bruce.

I already love this song! :D

Yep - and they're all bad

Once agan the Boss will lead out of the muck that is the latest \"genre\" and lead us all back to the promised land of good old Rock and Roll!!!!

There was a great article in the online New York Times (Sat 7/13 or Sun 7/14) about this new album, the fact that it\'s inspired by/dedicated to the heroes of 9/11, and Bruce\'s songwriting philosophy in general. Bruce is highly articulate and thoughtful -- it\'s a good read.

This song does the same thing too much.

\"ya ya yada yada yada ya\" but still catchy

not too bad, especially considering that it is Bruce...

the boss live in concert is second to none.