Actually this is not so bad. It is bad, but not that bad. I mean at least it has some horns in it, so its not that crappy.

Beez wrote: Never grow up. Everyone I know who's tried it says it's highly overrated.

OK, this chic does possess truckloads of talent relative to the current crop of teen pop queens...but is teen pop why i listen to RP... mmmmm, no. Bill, I wish you a speedy recovery from whatever malady possessed you to play this :fever.gif:

mperetz wrote: It doesn't "border" it wholeheartedly LEAPS over the crap border. I have a new least favorite RP "song." And here I thought Placebo could never be beaten... This level of melisma combined with minimalist instrumentation is truly painful. If I start hearing Mariah Carey on RP, I'm gone. I could think of at least 20 more reasons to hate this song. Ugh.

hm. at first, i was going to scream bloody murder about this on RP, but why? just because it's popular, doesn't mean it sucks. as far as i'm concerned, this doesn't suck, necessarily. it doesn't rock, either, though. not exactly "intelligent" but it does add to the "eclectic" of RP. diversity makes the world go round. thanks for that, bill.

I think Pink as a great voice, and if she'll put it to work, she'll go some where. She needs to grow up.....I need to grow up too and I'm twice her age....maybe I need to grow up.

bc wrote: Second this opinion.. sounds like a bunch of people whining in here because they think mainstream artists all suck. Will 'pink' last? Will this be RP material in 10 years when nobody gives a damn? Probably... personally I like an eclectic mix - that's why I listen to RP.. not for a particular genre or type of artist. Now can anyone here tell me what 'eclectic' means.. I must not understand..

There are aspects of Pink's voice that remind me of Joan Osborne. As far as the current spate of "pop" singers go I think she has a lot of talent. (I would listen to her or Chritine Aguleria over Britney Spears any day). I wouldn't be surprised if her music and voice matures even more with time. I enjoyed this.

laozilover wrote: Can't you just critique the song and artist, and not attack another listener? Personally, I despise your kind of post. It's BORING in and of itself. I'm not defending what the other person said - but s/he was simply expressing their opinion.

Relayer wrote:Anyone? Speak for yourself! I like it. I find your type of internet "worldliness" predictable, churlish, and boring.

Borders on crap- yes, she has a good voice - although it sounds like about a zillion others and is probably enhanced. Boot it.

Pink... is ma fav o rit cra on...

Wow! I\'m so bummed out to see so many bad reviews of Pink. I really think she\'s great, and I think its great that she\'s getting play here on RP. I\'m a music snob, but not enough of one to say I hate something just because its on the pop charts. Pink has a great voice, and I think she has a lot of potential as an artist. As far as the pop genre goes, I think she\'s great. I say please play more!

Not here, please, for all that is discerning, please, no...

You said it. Ugh.

Can\'t say much about this song. Doesn\'t seem to make an impression one way or another. Sure seems to chap a lot of asses though . . . (pimp)

Say what you want about her.... I\'m no fan. But she has a good voice

I don\'t care if some people on RP like this song. The rest of her song library is bubble gum whore-pop, and playing her here is not what I want to hear. I like RP\'s diversity, but that doesn\'t mean I want to hear a \"really cool song by Britney\" or whoever.

you Nailed it Xpat. So much rap, along with being derivative, obvious and misogynistic (in other words, dumb - and no different from rock or pop), is tiresome and full of braggadocio. Pink does not come across as a cut above. Instead of this, how about EL-P or THE STREETS, a more eclectic and intelligent rap that rocks. "Stay Positive" and "Let's Push This Thing Forward" are two cuts that might raise a ruckus here at first. I am very comfortable in wagering that they be enjoyed to a MUCH greater degree than pink. I was looking for some info to share on THE STREETS (hailed as one of the best releases of 2002 by MOJO and Q magazines) and found this: From URB Magazine There are two primary reasons why dance music — the revolution-waiting-to-happen that inspired this magazine's founding — will continue to have a hard time "breaking" in America: 1) instrumental music hasn't been wildly popular here in nearly 80 years (for better or worse, more people identify with Springsteen or "American Idol" than Coltrane and Rachmaninov), and/or 2) it's just not very sexy for a genre of music — for lack of a better term, electronic dance music — to be internally sub-divided along neat, tidy increments of beats per minute. Imagine trying to explain "garage" (or any of dance music's petty sub-genres, for that matter) to a total novice: It's like nothing you've ever heard before . . . It's a few beats per minute faster than that other genre, which itself was defined by being a faster take on the genre from which it sprang. With Original Pirate Material, Mike Skinner, the 22-year-old garage producer and British rapper behind the Streets, has succeeded where many others have failed: He's made a dance record with pathos. His much-ballyhooed debut fuses two of the globe's tried-and-true musical success stories (rapping and the much-hyped "Next Big Thing" of the moment — in this case, two-step garage) and is already being hailed as one of the most important (white) British albums in decades. It's easy to select reasons why they are onto something — where much of electronic dance music is predicated on city-in-the-sky visions of utopia and perfection — grandiose, commendable and over-ambitious visions that often inspire escapism rather than politics — Skinner has done something so painfully obvious and simple that it borders on genius, and it's a significant argument in favor of dance music as music for thinking, feeling, living people. On the teetering and vaguely Specials-sounding "Let's Push Things Forward," Skinner half brags, half warns that "This ain't your archetypal street sound. " No kidding. As a producer, the sound of the Streets is built on bouncy garage rhythms, deep and stabby bass lines and RZA-ish string lines; it's annoyingly catchy, shiny and sugary. The glassy, clip-clopping "Has It Come to This?" is one of the year's great pop tunes, and the ambient drum & bass of "It's Too Late" and the urgent orchestral dash of "Turn the Page" aren't far behind. Lyrically, Skinner writes about the mundane and everyday (video games, drugs, parties, friends), and he's unapologetically British-sounding. He's a terrible rapper, but what he lacks in coordination he sort of makes up for with his dainty, oddly endearing flow and the fact that even the most pedestrian of his stories sounds interesting when set among Tube stations, flats, water closets and council estates. His lyricism entitles you to a day in the life of a white kid from the suburbs weaned on black British culture trying to maintain in post-industrial London. But where most British MCs of any hue quiver ever so gently because, deep down, they know they sound nothing like their stateside idols, the Streets sounds self-confident and self-confidently white, bad flow (and teeth) and all. The self-confidence — the awareness that this is different, that we've indeed "turned the page" — makes a great deal of difference. As such, Original Pirate Material is also the most genuine expression yet of post-hip-hop, white-kid British lyricism. Where fellow garage stars So Solid Crew or Roots Manuva, New Flesh and their unfortunately named "Bouncement" contingent of hip-hop/dancehall/soul fusionists all embody a black Atlantic/black Briton sensibility, the Streets is British like Blur, Pulp or the Smiths ("Sounds like Arab Strap over two-step," complains my roommate) are British — full of suffering and pomp, malaise and the ambition to be anthemically emotional. The Streets' novel pairing of dance music and wordplay hits the mark more often than not and it's a step in a potentially interesting direction, but ultimately Original Pirate Material is not the lone answer to our future music culture prayers. America ain't ready for a geezer who lamely shouts out Paul Oakenfold and references Carl Jung. It's taken long enough for America to warm to the white rapper, and remember still, nobody listens to techno. Hua Hsu

I don\'t listen to commercial radio. I don\'t watch mtv. I didn\'t know I was supposed to hate pink. Judging by people\'s comments, I see that I am required to hate pink. Ok. I now hate pink. Am I cool now? Actually, it didn\'t bother me. I wasn\'t paying much attention. Maybe I\'d get sick of it if I heard it a bunch of times. Maybe not. To be honest, I\'d rather hear that song once in place of a U2 song AGAIN.

I love adventurous programming, but this is the first time I have walked back to the computer and heard music that made me think that somehow the station was switched to another channel. Does NOT feel like Paradise.

UGGH!!! What\'s going on RP? Please, please, remove this song...it\'s degrading...

Actually, I think it's just a result of over population. The more humans there are on earth, the more potential an album has to get sold. They don't call it mass media for nothing. It requires the masses to buy it in number. Nothing like a bunch of lemmings to make an album go platinum. I hope my rating dropped it even further than the 4 it was already at. Get my drift Big Guy? ;) Bold? Maybe. They say genius borders on insanity. RP is definitely genius, so maybe we get a bit of insanity every so often.

gee, i used to like all of the songs i heard about california...oh well. bill how about playing "california" by the beach boys or robert bradleys blackwater surprise or wax or joni mitchell or dreams so real or phantom planet or luna?

I have to say that I like her voice, but as we like to say here in California...Welcome to California, now go home

I agree: Spoonman is no good. But all you people who are sick and tired of hearing Pink: Who the heck is tying you up and making you listen to Pop40 radio all day long and how long \'til they come get you? I know who Pink is. I get the MTV. But they never really show videos, do they? I saw her \"Behind the Music\" long before the first time I actually heard a song from her, which was just now.

It wasn\'t terrible - I had no idea who it was. Played right after Spoonman again... I\'d be ok if I never heard either again.

Never thought that I would hear pink on Radio paradise... Kinda wish I didn\'t. Pop crap, thats all she is.

Wow, I brought the rating from 4.5 to 4.4. How low does it have to go before we never hear it again?

So if we would go to Calafornicated, and it fell of the edge of the map, at a fault would any one care? we would miss RP

holy sh*t! I heard the voice and said.. no ... it COULDN\'T BE! When oh WHEN am I going to learn to trust my first thought patern on things like this? :) Not bad... but there are much better under cut songs from sources like Pink .. ie. Lauryn Hill\'s Everything is Everything .. better than Pink, and often thought not playable on a station like RP.

Her latest album sold like 4m copies. I'd say that's pretty popular.

\"Mega popular music is often mega crappy\" You took the words right outa my mouth. Except, I can\'t believe this song (or Pink in general,) to be mega-popular.

Sure it ain\'t the greatest song, but i\'d rather hear it than Soungarden\'s Spoonman (just played prior) again. Thanks for continuing to push the envelope Bill!

Good job, Bill. I have always thought the latest Pink album was shockingly good. Mega popular music is often mega crappy, but not always.

Sheesh, I\'ve heard worse.

Is this why B&R came East?

i thought i was listening to radio paradise... guess not.

Gawd.......I hate this girl. Zero talent, zero artistic morals, zero appeal to anyone who would enjoy the usual type of great songwriting found on this station.

she's talking about North Philly. ever been there? I don't blame her for wanting to leave.

I don\'t really care where she\'s from or where she goes as long I don\'t have to hear that half-feigned whiny vocal drippy drek anymore...

yeah, bold move. what he said.

Bold move, Bill. Not sure if I like the tune, but I admire your courage.