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pigtail

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Location: Southern California
Gender: Female


Posted: Aug 2, 2018 - 1:36pm

thanks guys.....I agree with both of you!{#Dancingbanana_2}
ScottFromWyoming

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Location: Powell
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Posted: Aug 2, 2018 - 11:04am

 pigtail wrote:
I would like to ask a question of you RP listeners.  I am in this debate with my 21 yr old son regarding his quest to join a band and ultimately perform live gigs.  I keep reminding him that stage presence is a real thing.  He needs to dress for the part just as if he were dressing for any job interview when he goes to open mic nights and auditions.  He argues with me saying that he can dress as he wants and its all about the music.  If a band doesn't hire him solely based on his talent then he doesn't want to be a part of that band.  Don't get me wrong, I love his sense of values and I do somewhat agree with him BUT.....am I wrong to suggest that he should fit in with the band aesthetically?  Yes it is about the music but not ALL about the music.  Unfortunately it matters, doesn't it?  We are talking about paid gigs.
 
He wants to perform music live! Fantastic. The odds of being in a band that pays the bills are slim, and being obstinate about "art" can make them insurmountable. If his everyday style is appropriate, then maybe, but that flannel shirt should look vintage but be freshly laundered. Up close, he should look like a Hollywood movie's depiction of him: Hair messy? Fine, just clean and perfectly messy. If he really doesn't have a look or style, then I'm sorry, but he has to play the part (dress for success) or be a studio musician. You can't be a slob there, but at least you don't have to put on airs. The hard thing to remember is that when you take the stage, you're an entertainer. If you look like you don't give a shit or even know what you're doing, people won't open their ears to hear what you're about. Why should they take you seriously when you don't? Oh, right. It's all about the music. Hope you like coffeehouses and tip jars, son. 
 
If that seems harsh, sorry. My number one advice is to be nice. Friendly and helpful (not obsequious, just be approachable). If people wish you were dating their daughter, they'll help you out. If you insist on playing the surly iconoclast, you'll do everything yourself, on your dime.
Proclivities

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Location: Paris of the Piedmont
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Posted: Aug 2, 2018 - 10:42am

 pigtail wrote:
I would like to ask a question of you RP listeners.  I am in this debate with my 21 yr old son regarding his quest to join a band and ultimately perform live gigs.  I keep reminding him that stage presence is a real thing.  He needs to dress for the part just as if he were dressing for any job interview when he goes to open mic nights and auditions.  He argues with me saying that he can dress as he wants and its all about the music.  If a band doesn't hire him solely based on his talent then he doesn't want to be a part of that band.  Don't get me wrong, I love his sense of values and I do somewhat agree with him BUT.....am I wrong to suggest that he should fit in with the band aesthetically?  Yes it is about the music but not ALL about the music.  Unfortunately it matters, doesn't it?  We are talking about paid gigs.
 
It seems like "attire" would ultimately matter on what type of music the band plays, but for an audition it shouldn't be as important.  I would think just looking relatively "neat" and showered should be okay, because it is not really the same as an office-type job interview: musicians are hired largely for their musical abilities, with the exceptions of things like boy bands or pop bands meant purely for visual markets.  Obviously, if a band hires someone, they may offer suggestions or specifics on how the new member should dress for gigs.  An open mic night is different, because it's more than an audition, it's a public performance, so I believe that appearance is more important for that.  Auditions usually occur in practice or recording studios, in front a just a few people, so getting "dressed up" may not be as important - though it couldn't hurt.  If he's auditioning for a band that plays a sort of music he's into, then he may already be dressing the part.  I guess looking "cool" is always going to be what matters. 
pigtail

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Location: Southern California
Gender: Female


Posted: Aug 2, 2018 - 10:02am

I would like to ask a question of you RP listeners.  I am in this debate with my 21 yr old son regarding his quest to join a band and ultimately perform live gigs.  I keep reminding him that stage presence is a real thing.  He needs to dress for the part just as if he were dressing for any job interview when he goes to open mic nights and auditions.  He argues with me saying that he can dress as he wants and its all about the music.  If a band doesn't hire him solely based on his talent then he doesn't want to be a part of that band.  Don't get me wrong, I love his sense of values and I do somewhat agree with him BUT.....am I wrong to suggest that he should fit in with the band aesthetically?  Yes it is about the music but not ALL about the music.  Unfortunately it matters, doesn't it?  We are talking about paid gigs.
Yibbyl

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Location: Gaäd only knows
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Posted: Aug 11, 2015 - 11:06pm

Where do we go from heaven?
Yibbyl

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Location: Gaäd only knows
Gender: Male


Posted: Aug 11, 2015 - 10:46pm

I can't do it, so move along 
Do you really want to wait until I prove you wrong?
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But how, how am I different? 

How, how am I different?
How, how am I different? 

And just one question before I pack
When you f*** it up later, do I get my money back?

I can't do it, and as for you
Can you in good conscience even ask me to?

'Cause what do you care about the great divide 
As long as you come down on the winner's side?

And how, how am I different?

Red_Dragon

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Location: Dumbf*ckistan


Posted: Aug 11, 2015 - 2:15pm

Now ain't that heaven sent?
ScottFromWyoming

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Location: Powell
Gender: Male


Posted: Aug 11, 2015 - 2:12pm

 meower wrote:
Who's gonna love you when your looks are gone?

 
Who's gonna mow your grass?
meower

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Location: i believe, i believe, it's silly, but I believe
Gender: Female


Posted: Aug 11, 2015 - 1:44pm

Who's gonna love you when your looks are gone?
Alexandra

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Location: PNW
Gender: Female


Posted: Aug 11, 2015 - 1:26pm

Where do we go from here, now that all of the children are growin' up?
Yibbyl

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Location: Gaäd only knows
Gender: Male


Posted: Aug 11, 2015 - 1:10pm

Why don't you wake up and smell what you're shoveling?!?
Sean-E-Sean

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Location: Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc


Posted: Aug 11, 2015 - 9:28am

Don't you see the time flashing by?
samiyam

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Location: Moving North


Posted: Jul 8, 2012 - 12:01pm

 Alexandra wrote:
Are you gonna go my way?

 
Who wrote the book of love?
samiyam

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Location: Moving North


Posted: Jul 8, 2012 - 12:00pm

 hippiechick wrote:
Has anyone been brave enough to store all their music "in the clouds" and throw out their files?

 
No FREAKIN' way!   {#Snooty}
Alexandra

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Location: PNW
Gender: Female


Posted: Jul 8, 2012 - 12:00pm

Are you gonna go my way?
justlistening

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Location: So. California
Gender: Male


Posted: Jul 8, 2012 - 11:57am

 hippiechick wrote:
Has anyone been brave enough to store all their music "in the clouds" and throw out their files?

 

We've all been storing our email in the clouds if you think about it.  On the other hand, I wouldn't throw out all my files.  Clouds blow away.  Keep your files as backup and for when the interweb is down.
sirdroseph

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Location: Not here, I tell you wat
Gender: Male


Posted: Jul 8, 2012 - 7:30am

One case of Manbird's® organic goat cheese and sun dried peach burritos for anyone who can tell us who this artists is?


hippiechick

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Posted: Jul 8, 2012 - 7:16am

Has anyone been brave enough to store all their music "in the clouds" and throw out their files?
hippiechick

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Gender: Female


Posted: May 31, 2012 - 7:55pm

 ScottN wrote:
Wonder if he'll ever know
Who's in the best-selling show
Is there life on Mars?

 
It's on Amerika's tortured brow
That Mickey Mouse has grown up a cow
Now the workers have struck for fame
'Cause Lennon's on sale again
ScottN

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Location: Half inch above the K/T boundary
Gender: Male


Posted: May 31, 2012 - 7:49pm

Wonder if he'll ever know
Who's in the best-selling show
Is there life on Mars?
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