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westslope

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Posted: Dec 7, 2021 - 10:30am

 R_P wrote:

......

"What's next?! People marrying their dogs!?"


Well, the current success of marriage is no better than a coin flip and statistically no different than the success rate of common law relationships.

So yeah.  Maybe marriages to dogs would last longer, and involve less drama than many contemporary marriages.  

westslope

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Posted: Dec 7, 2021 - 10:27am

God is coming and they is pissed. 
Lazy8

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Posted: Dec 7, 2021 - 9:32am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Pretty sure you meant:

Or maybe
or even
There's a long tradition of appeasing factions within a party by tossing them the sop of a VP candidate. It leads to friction as often as it leads to unity, but it's political tokenism.

I mean it's normal.
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Posted: Dec 7, 2021 - 9:29am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


You gotta admit that the military org that he wants to have at his beck and call is a bit secret-policey. 


If the brown shirt fits...
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Dec 7, 2021 - 9:17am

 kurtster wrote:
It is clear that tokenism is alive and well in the party.

Exhibit A :
.

Pretty sure you meant:

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Dec 7, 2021 - 9:14am

 rgio wrote:

Scott...the IMO clearly puts the blame on me...which I accept as an increasingly old man. 

I would guess that the majority of the electorate in your fine state would agree with my prior statement.   I really have no issue with what someone wants to call themselves, but right now, the focus on pronouns is supported almost entirely by Dems and plays to the PC narrative that energizes the MAGA crowd.

You're right...but they (very plural) don't care.



It's called "the singular they," and it's a very old construction that you use often, I'm sure. How convenient, then, that we need something for this situation and there it is.
kurtster

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Posted: Dec 7, 2021 - 9:12am

It is clear that tokenism is alive and well in the party.

Exhibit A :
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rgio

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Posted: Dec 7, 2021 - 8:46am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Who told you that "they" is strictly plural? They were wrong.


Scott...the IMO clearly puts the blame on me...which I accept as an increasingly old man. 

I would guess that the majority of the electorate in your fine state would agree with my prior statement.   I really have no issue with what someone wants to call themselves, but right now, the focus on pronouns is supported almost entirely by Dems and plays to the PC narrative that energizes the MAGA crowd.

You're right...but they (very plural) don't care.

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Posted: Dec 7, 2021 - 7:11am

 miamizsun wrote:


"secret police"



You gotta admit that the military org that he wants to have at his beck and call is a bit secret-policey. 
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Posted: Dec 7, 2021 - 4:29am

i'm pretty sure this election is his to lose
from what i can tell, he has enjoyed popular support
all he has to do is make sense, speak with any intelligence
win the centrists, sort of like he has done in the past

"secret police"
jeez, this type of tin foil conspiracy is cancerous
i hope his media team wises up and understands florida is politically and culturally very diverse
i'm not sure people want more toxic campaigning...
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Posted: Dec 6, 2021 - 3:49pm

 rgio wrote:

The pronoun issue with "they" (IMO) is a problem because basic laws of the English language....singular vs. plural... are obliterated in the "re-use".  I personally like Ze best for non-binary...it can be singular or plural...sounds like he and she...and you don't have to re-write the laws of language to apply it.

Who told you that "they" is strictly plural? They were wrong.

rgio

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Posted: Dec 6, 2021 - 3:27pm

 miamizsun wrote:
...
all of this may beg the question, how many pronouns are there? and how do we know when to use them?
maybe pronouns are fluid

All language is fluid.  Look no further than the N-word, a term of endearment when used within the group(s) it was created to target, yet so dangerous as to never be typed for fear of retribution.  It's literally Voldemort.

I'm all for people doing whatever they want so long as it involves consenting adults.  The pronoun issue with "they" (IMO) is a problem because basic laws of the English language....singular vs. plural... are obliterated in the "re-use".  I personally like Ze best for non-binary...it can be singular or plural...sounds like he and she...and you don't have to re-write the laws of language to apply it.

I'm still recovering from the damage inflicted by Jawn here in Philly...
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Posted: Dec 6, 2021 - 2:22pm

 rgio wrote:
  That discussion is an incredibly powerful recruiting tool for the right.  Call it whatever-phobic you like...that just adds to the impact.

Yes, great for glib trivialization. All "identities" matter!

"What's next?! People marrying their dogs!?"

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Posted: Dec 6, 2021 - 1:44pm

 westslope wrote:

I often use the term 'non-white'.    Is that a culturally acceptable term these days?


I think it's taken on a meaning of "latinx but not hispanic" at least on official surveys.
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Posted: Dec 6, 2021 - 1:00pm

 rgio wrote:
 miamizsun wrote:

buy a vowel? 
and i agree
however, i think it just depends
 That discussion is an incredibly powerful recruiting tool for the right.  Call it whatever-phobic you like...that just adds to the impact.
 
i can see where it might be a trigger for some
however to me it just looks like kids going through a phase, maybe like furries (sp)
i don't have a problem with body decor or modification, i was reffering to sfw's word comment
back in the eighties i had acquaintances that identified as vampires or they did when they were at goth clubs
where are they now? tampa i think
all of this may beg the question, how many pronouns are there? and how do we know when to use them?
maybe pronouns are fluid
westslope

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Posted: Dec 6, 2021 - 11:10am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

.......

I'm watching with some bemusement as "colored people" is out but "people of color" is in.

I often use the term 'non-white'.    Is that a culturally acceptable term these days?


In regards to the article, I wonder if Democrats have had that conversation with folks who can be described as "visible minorities" who oppose high rates of immigration from their country or region of origin?   I ask because well-meaning white folk who talk to nobody get some really strange ideas as to what "those people" actually want.  

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Posted: Dec 6, 2021 - 10:47am

 miamizsun wrote:

buy a vowel? 
and i agree
however, i think it just depends


 That discussion is an incredibly powerful recruiting tool for the right.  Call it whatever-phobic you like...that just adds to the impact.

miamizsun

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Posted: Dec 6, 2021 - 10:33am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Welcome to the romance languages. I'll use whatever term people want me to use, but we get changed to some real nonsense sometimes, and it doesn't solve the problem. In the case of Latinx, if someone says they're Latinx, I assume they're LGBTetc. NTTAWWT but words have meaning and if it's a meaningless word when you start using it, it quickly takes on a meaning.

It was Oriental when I was a kid, then it's Asian. Solved the problem of being defined by where you live relative to Europe, I guess, but Asia is also not Europe, so I never was sure it advanced the cause.

I'm watching with some bemusement as "colored people" is out but "people of color" is in.

buy a vowel? 
and i agree
however, i think it just depends
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Dec 6, 2021 - 9:56am

 Red_Dragon wrote:

Welcome to the romance languages. I'll use whatever term people want me to use, but we get changed to some real nonsense sometimes, and it doesn't solve the problem. In the case of Latinx, if someone says they're Latinx, I assume they're LGBTetc. NTTAWWT but words have meaning and if it's a meaningless word when you start using it, it quickly takes on a meaning.

It was Oriental when I was a kid, then it's Asian. Solved the problem of being defined by where you live relative to Europe, I guess, but Asia is also not Europe, so I never was sure it advanced the cause.

I'm watching with some bemusement as "colored people" is out but "people of color" is in.
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Posted: Dec 6, 2021 - 8:35am

Democrats fall flat with ‘Latinx’ language
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