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Posted: Apr 20, 2022 - 4:05pm

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why would a country need freedom of speech? behold state tv...




Question should be what will Russia have left when Ukraine is through with them. Their losses have been horrific.
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Posted: Apr 20, 2022 - 3:33pm

why would a country need freedom of speech? behold state tv...


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Posted: Apr 15, 2022 - 12:25am

Western Dissent from US/NATO Policy on Ukraine is Small, Yet the Censorship Campaign is Extreme (Greenwald)
Preventing populations from asking who benefits from a protracted proxy war, and who pays the price, is paramount. A closed propaganda system achieves that.
What makes this outburst of Western censorship so notable — and what is at least partially driving it — is that there is a clear, demonstrable hunger in the West for news and information that is banished by Western news sources, ones which loyally and unquestioningly mimic claims from the U.S. government, NATO, and Ukrainian officials. As The Washington Post acknowledged when reporting Big Tech's “unprecedented” banning of RT, Sputnik and other Russian sources of news: “In the first four days of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, viewership of more than a dozen Russian state-backed propaganda channels on YouTube spiked to unusually high levels.”

Note that this censorship regime is completely one-sided and, as usual, entirely aligned with U.S. foreign policy. Western news outlets and social media platforms have been flooded with pro-Ukrainian propaganda and outright lies from the start of the war. A New York Times article from early March put it very delicately in its headline: “Fact and Mythmaking Blend in Ukraine’s Information War.” Axios was similarly understated in recognizing this fact: “Ukraine misinformation is spreading — and not just from Russia.” Members of the U.S. Congress have gleefully spread fabrications that went viral to millions of people, with no action from censorship-happy Silicon Valley corporations. That is not a surprise: all participants in war use disinformation and propaganda to manipulate public opinion in their favor, and that certainly includes all direct and proxy-war belligerents in the war in Ukraine.

Yet there is little to no censorship — either by Western states or by Silicon Valley monopolies — of pro-Ukrainian disinformation, propaganda and lies. The censorship goes only in one direction: to silence any voices deemed  “pro-Russian,” regardless of whether they spread disinformation. The "Russians With Attitude” Twitter account became popular in part because they sometimes criticized Russia, in part because they were more careful with facts and viral claims that most U.S. corporate media outlets, and in part because there is such a paucity of outlets that are willing to offer any information that undercuts what the U.S. Government and NATO want you to believe about the war.

Their crime, like the crime of so many other banished accounts, was not disinformation but skepticism about the US/NATO propaganda campaign. Put another way, it is not “disinformation" but rather viewpoint-error that is targeted for silencing. One can spread as many lies and as much disinformation as one wants provided that it is designed to advance the NATO agenda in Ukraine (just as one is free to spread disinformation provided that its purpose is to strengthen the Democratic Party, which wields its majoritarian power in Washington to demand greater censorship and commands the support of most of Silicon Valley). But what one cannot do is question the NATO/Ukrainian propaganda framework without running a very substantial risk of banishment. (...)

But one question lingers: why is there so much urgency about silencing the small pockets of dissenting voices about the war in Ukraine? This war has united the establishment wings of both parties and virtually the entire corporate media with a lockstep consensus not seen since the days and weeks after the 9/11 attack. One can count on both hands the number of prominent political and media figures who have been willing to dissent even minimally from that bipartisan Washington consensus — dissent that instantly provokes vilification in the form of attacks on one's patriotism and loyalties. Why is there such fear of allowing these isolated and demonized voices to be heard at all?

The answer seems clear. The benefits from this war for multiple key Washington power centers cannot be overstated. (...)

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lol

Here's some whataboutism though: I have bad news for you about Sturgis.
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Posted: Mar 2, 2021 - 2:29pm

After Years of Propaganda, American Views of Russia and China Hit Historic Lows
Both pro- and anti-war voices have stated that the U.S. is on the cusp of entering a second Cold War, and a new Gallup poll suggests that the groundwork for such a conflict has already been laid.
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Posted: Feb 28, 2021 - 1:05pm

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Posted: Jun 16, 2020 - 12:49pm

Shocker: US state propaganda outlets censor Black Lives Matter protests
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Posted: Mar 2, 2020 - 2:58pm

How socialism became un-American through the Ad Council’s propaganda campaigns
The Billion-Dollar Disinformation Campaign to Reelect the President
How new technologies and techniques pioneered by dictators will shape the 2020 election
One day last fall, I sat down to create a new Facebook account. I picked a forgettable name, snapped a profile pic with my face obscured, and clicked “Like” on the official pages of Donald Trump and his reelection campaign. Facebook’s algorithm prodded me to follow Ann Coulter, Fox Business, and a variety of fan pages with names like “In Trump We Trust.” I complied. I also gave my cellphone number to the Trump campaign, and joined a handful of private Facebook groups for MAGA diehards, one of which required an application that seemed designed to screen out interlopers.

The president’s reelection campaign was then in the midst of a multimillion-dollar ad blitz aimed at shaping Americans’ understanding of the recently launched impeachment proceedings. Thousands of micro-targeted ads had flooded the internet, portraying Trump as a heroic reformer cracking down on foreign corruption while Democrats plotted a coup. That this narrative bore little resemblance to reality seemed only to accelerate its spread. Right-wing websites amplified every claim. Pro-Trump forums teemed with conspiracy theories. An alternate information ecosystem was taking shape around the biggest news story in the country, and I wanted to see it from the inside.

The story that unfurled in my Facebook feed over the next several weeks was, at times, disorienting. There were days when I would watch, live on TV, an impeachment hearing filled with damning testimony about the president’s conduct, only to look at my phone later and find a slickly edited video—served up by the Trump campaign—that used out-of-context clips to recast the same testimony as an exoneration. Wait, I caught myself wondering more than once, is that what happened today?

As I swiped at my phone, a stream of pro-Trump propaganda filled the screen: “That’s right, the whistleblower’s own lawyer said, ‘The coup has started …’ ” Swipe. “Democrats are doing Putin’s bidding …” Swipe. “The only message these radical socialists and extremists will understand is a crushing …” Swipe. “Only one man can stop this chaos …” Swipe, swipe, swipe.

I was surprised by the effect it had on me. I’d assumed that my skepticism and media literacy would inoculate me against such distortions. But I soon found myself reflexively questioning every headline. It wasn’t that I believed Trump and his boosters were telling the truth. It was that, in this state of heightened suspicion, truth itself—about Ukraine, impeachment, or anything else—felt more and more difficult to locate. With each swipe, the notion of observable reality drifted further out of reach.

What I was seeing was a strategy that has been deployed by illiberal political leaders around the world. Rather than shutting down dissenting voices, these leaders have learned to harness the democratizing power of social media for their own purposes—jamming the signals, sowing confusion. They no longer need to silence the dissident shouting in the streets; they can use a megaphone to drown him out. Scholars have a name for this: censorship through noise.

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Posted: Aug 13, 2019 - 1:22pm

How Voice of America Persian Became a Trump Administration PR Machine
Journalists at VOA Persian have been lashing out at Americans they deem unsupportive of Trump’s Iran policy.
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Posted: May 3, 2019 - 1:26pm

Right-Wing Artist Jon McNaughton Mocked For Motorcycle Trump Portrait
New Painting – “MAGA Ride” by Jon McNaughton
Trump is maneuvering his way through a corrupt Washington DC, despite the constant bumps and detours imposed upon him. Enjoy the ride… “MAGA RIDE!”


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Posted: Feb 8, 2019 - 6:33am



 R_P wrote:
An accidental empire...
We cannot afford Medicare-for-all — this is the end of America as we know it economically. So people have got to wake up to realize we are already, with the retirement of the boomers, going for — heading for an economic shortfall — Medicare-for-all, free education, universal basic income, which are all the tenants of a socialist platform — it is not economically viable and we will go the way of every other empire that has imploded upon itself like the Roman empire.

 
Most medical costs arent optional...we already pay them one way or the other.  

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Posted: Feb 7, 2019 - 3:19pm

An accidental empire...
We cannot afford Medicare-for-all — this is the end of America as we know it economically. So people have got to wake up to realize we are already, with the retirement of the boomers, going for — heading for an economic shortfall — Medicare-for-all, free education, universal basic income, which are all the tenants of a socialist platform — it is not economically viable and we will go the way of every other empire that has imploded upon itself like the Roman empire.

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Posted: Jan 30, 2019 - 1:23pm

 black321 wrote:
 R_P wrote:
 black321 wrote:
 R_P wrote:
 Plenty examples of trying to control economically or politically. Go back to your definition.
 
Sure, only proves my point.  You're not helping your argument, or the point you're trying to make with these random articles posts, one bit.  On the contrary, it diminishes the message of the true harm from these types of actions.  
 
They're not random. There's a pattern that you're not willing to see, i.e. denial. Imperialism is what causes those bad policies.

"National Security Advisor John Bolton announced that the US will freeze Venezuelan assets and block oil payments for Venezuelan oil imports to the US. This would not only be illegal, but would also be yet another crippling blow to the country, says CEPR’s Mark Weisbrot"
 
was referring to your random barrage of posts. 
 
Again, they're not random.
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Posted: Jan 30, 2019 - 1:21pm



 R_P wrote:
 black321 wrote:
 R_P wrote:
 Plenty examples of trying to control economically or politically. Go back to your definition.
 
Sure, only proves my point.  You're not helping your argument, or the point you're trying to make with these random articles posts, one bit.  On the contrary, it diminishes the message of the true harm from these types of actions.  
 
They're not random. There's a pattern that you're not willing to see, i.e. denial. Imperialism is what causes those bad policies.

"National Security Advisor John Bolton announced that the US will freeze Venezuelan assets and block oil payments for Venezuelan oil imports to the US. This would not only be illegal, but would also be yet another crippling blow to the country, says CEPR’s Mark Weisbrot"
 
was referring to your random barrage of posts.  

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Posted: Jan 30, 2019 - 11:44am

 black321 wrote:
 R_P wrote:
 Plenty examples of trying to control economically or politically. Go back to your definition.
 
Sure, only proves my point.  You're not helping your argument, or the point you're trying to make with these random articles posts, one bit.  On the contrary, it diminishes the message of the true harm from these types of actions.  
 
They're not random. There's a pattern that you're not willing to see, i.e. denial. Imperialism is what causes those bad policies.

"National Security Advisor John Bolton announced that the US will freeze Venezuelan assets and block oil payments for Venezuelan oil imports to the US. This would not only be illegal, but would also be yet another crippling blow to the country, says CEPR’s Mark Weisbrot"
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Posted: Jan 30, 2019 - 11:36am



 R_P wrote:

 Plenty examples of trying to control economically or politically. Go back to your definition.
 

Sure, only proves my point.  You're not helping your argument, or the point you're trying to make with these random articles posts, one bit.  On the contrary, it diminishes the message of the true harm from these types of actions.  
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Posted: Jan 30, 2019 - 11:00am


 black321 wrote:


 R_P wrote:
 black321 wrote:
 R_P wrote:
 
Yes, imperialism, even if it's in the guise of: unlike the other imperial powers "we mean well", "we aspire to greater things", "we don't repress." Said every (benevolent) empire ever.

"Innate corruption, meekness, simple lives, squandered opportunities." Such stupid and thankless people, clearly not ready for those "universal GOOD things." Again a familiar refrain heard for centuries by apologists of empire. We just need to teach them through our "civilizing mission."


Imperialism is a state government, practice, or advocacy of extending power and dominion, especially by direct territorial acquisition or by gaining political and economic control of other areas.

All nations want to exert power over others, but where exactly are we trying to extend dominion over afghan, iraq, libya, venezuela?

American interference has in situations contributed to this or that countries poor position. Ultimately, it is the country, leaders, people themselves who are responsible for their own state.  Saying otherwise is merely saying the people are in fact meek, inferior, rather than acting meek.  

Indeed, which is why they don't need us telling them how to run their country or by intervening there.


Bolton
: "It will make a big difference to the United States economically if we could have American oil companies invest in and produce the oil capabilities in Venezuela." "We're in conversation with major American companies now...It would make a difference if we could have American companies produce the oil in Venezuela. It would be good for Venezuela and the people of the United States."

Trump's plan to seize Iraq's oil: 'It's not stealing, we're reimbursing ourselves'

Afghanistan should be pretty self-evident, since you're still there doing "the good work."

Sanctions anyone?
 
plenty examples of bad actions, policy, comments...whatever, but not imperialism. bad reporting like that, or calling trump a fascist, just fuels the opposition.  go back to my original comment.
Plenty examples of trying to control economically or politically. Go back to your definition.
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Posted: Jan 30, 2019 - 10:50am



 R_P wrote:
 black321 wrote:
 R_P wrote:
 
Yes, imperialism, even if it's in the guise of: unlike the other imperial powers "we mean well", "we aspire to greater things", "we don't repress." Said every (benevolent) empire ever.

"Innate corruption, meekness, simple lives, squandered opportunities." Such stupid and thankless people, clearly not ready for those "universal GOOD things." Again a familiar refrain heard for centuries by apologists of empire. We just need to teach them through our "civilizing mission."


Imperialism is a state government, practice, or advocacy of extending power and dominion, especially by direct territorial acquisition or by gaining political and economic control of other areas.

All nations want to exert power over others, but where exactly are we trying to extend dominion over afghan, iraq, libya, venezuela?

American interference has in situations contributed to this or that countries poor position. Ultimately, it is the country, leaders, people themselves who are responsible for their own state.  Saying otherwise is merely saying the people are in fact meek, inferior, rather than acting meek.  

Indeed, which is why they don't need us telling them how to run their country or by intervening there.


Bolton
: "It will make a big difference to the United States economically if we could have American oil companies invest in and produce the oil capabilities in Venezuela." "We're in conversation with major American companies now...It would make a difference if we could have American companies produce the oil in Venezuela. It would be good for Venezuela and the people of the United States."

Trump's plan to seize Iraq's oil: 'It's not stealing, we're reimbursing ourselves'

Afghanistan should be pretty self-evident, since you're still there doing "the good work."

Sanctions anyone?
 


plenty examples of bad actions, policy, comments...whatever, but not imperialism. bad reporting like that, or calling trump a fascist, just fuels the opposition.  go back to my original comment.

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Posted: Jan 30, 2019 - 9:53am

 black321 wrote:
 R_P wrote:
 
Yes, imperialism, even if it's in the guise of: unlike the other imperial powers "we mean well", "we aspire to greater things", "we don't repress." Said every (benevolent) empire ever.

"Innate corruption, meekness, simple lives, squandered opportunities." Such stupid and thankless people, clearly not ready for those "universal GOOD things." Again a familiar refrain heard for centuries by apologists of empire. We just need to teach them through our "civilizing mission."


Imperialism is a state government, practice, or advocacy of extending power and dominion, especially by direct territorial acquisition or by gaining political and economic control of other areas.

All nations want to exert power over others, but where exactly are we trying to extend dominion over afghan, iraq, libya, venezuela?

American interference has in situations contributed to this or that countries poor position. Ultimately, it is the country, leaders, people themselves who are responsible for their own state.  Saying otherwise is merely saying the people are in fact meek, inferior, rather than acting meek.  

Indeed, which is why they don't need us telling them how to run their country or by intervening there.


Bolton
: "It will make a big difference to the United States economically if we could have American oil companies invest in and produce the oil capabilities in Venezuela." "We're in conversation with major American companies now...It would make a difference if we could have American companies produce the oil in Venezuela. It would be good for Venezuela and the people of the United States."

Trump's plan to seize Iraq's oil: 'It's not stealing, we're reimbursing ourselves'

Afghanistan should be pretty self-evident, since you're still there doing "the good work."

Sanctions anyone?
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