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Posted: Mar 17, 2022 - 6:05pm

The unimaginable nightmare that haunts the world
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Posted: Mar 13, 2022 - 11:42am


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Posted: Mar 8, 2022 - 2:50pm

 Ivanhoe wrote:

Like many in the West these days, I am clinging to the idea that sanctions can end the war.


Sanctions are supposed to foster revolutions, but, strangely enough, so are economic incentives, as in the case of China.

Social engineering by stick or carrot.
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Posted: Mar 8, 2022 - 11:45am

 rhahl wrote: 
Great behind the scenes piece, but again runs the risk of being at such stratospheric levels of geopolitical foreign policy that these guys fail to see what is happening at ground level. They should get out and talk to people who lived under Soviet rule. The vast majority didn't like it very much. And they don't want to go back. No doubt the US played the cards they had without any coherent strategy, due to changing governments and personalities. And no doubt there was a bit of winner-rub-the-loser's-nose-in-the-dirt mixed in there too. And no doubt Putin feels pushed into a corner. But think about that existential threat they continually talk about... the only existence at stake here is Putin's autocratic rule. not the sovereignty of Russia. Nor its culture, and not its people. 

None of what the US policymakers did, as discussed here, appears very honourable. But to only consider this side of the story risks ignoring what the people on the ground think.

If you doubt me, look at how the Ukrainians are fighting. Do you think they are doing that because some neocon deputy head of state exerted as much influence she could to get the outcome she wanted? Or that the "west" whoever that is exactly, promised the Urkrainians something illusory, like affiliation with the EU? No. They are fighting like hell, because they don't want to be under autocratic rule. This is not about Russia, the country, but its current leadership. 

He hasn't succeeded very well though. Even the Russian military doesn't appear very convinced. Were they behind this special operation with heart and soul, this war would have been over five days ago.
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Posted: Mar 8, 2022 - 10:14am

What the realists are thinking.
 
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Posted: Mar 7, 2022 - 11:22am

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absolutely nothing!




Say it again
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Posted: Mar 7, 2022 - 11:14am

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Good God, y'all, what is it good for?



absolutely nothing!


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Posted: Mar 7, 2022 - 10:34am

Good God, y'all, what is it good for?
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Posted: Mar 7, 2022 - 10:33am

...comes in packages labeled "PEACE"
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Posted: Mar 6, 2022 - 12:55pm

Cry Me A WAR...
Named by historians as WW-Zero was the Crimean War, 1853-56:
Why does history have to keep repeating itself, over and over again?
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Posted: Mar 5, 2022 - 5:41am

The Clash - Ivan Meets G.I. Joe

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Posted: Feb 9, 2022 - 5:43am

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easy friendo 
take a deep breath
 
{#Clap}
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Posted: Feb 9, 2022 - 5:35am

 Ohmsen wrote:
love you, too.
 
easy friendo 
take a deep breath
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Posted: Feb 7, 2022 - 7:21pm

 GeneP59 wrote:

I didn’t think the new Russian gas pipeline was operational.
 
Nordstrom2 is not, but there are other lines via other countries.
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Posted: Feb 7, 2022 - 3:11pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
 GeneP59 wrote:
This is how I see it going down.
Putin and Xi signed a pact.
after Olympics is over, Putin invades Ukraine
draws the West and US into war.
Xi then makes China’s move to annex Taiwan 
Iran sees the US stretched thinly and Nukes Israel 
And the same goes for Little Rocket-man sets off a nuke in Japan and invades South Korea 
And there you have it friends, the start of WWIII and the demise of modern mankind. Smok’em if you got’em and watch these events unfold.
Too many egomaniacs searching for world domination.
If you thing the supply chain is messed up now, just watch.
So is it too late to buy a fallout shelter? {#Eek}
 
ok, you might be stretching it, but my neighbours are seriously expecting Putin to shut down gas supplies to Germany as soon as he invades Ukraine. I don't think NATO will go to war for Ukraine, but in response they will be forced to draw a line between the Baltic states, Poland, Hungary etc. beyond which the NATO umbrella kicks in. 
China taking Taiwan only seems to be matter of time. You could be right. They might seize the moment now.  Iran, North Korea... nah..   but supply chains.. yep. ballsed up big time.
 
I didn’t think the new Russian gas pipeline was operational.
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Posted: Feb 7, 2022 - 3:08pm

 Ohmsen wrote:
 GeneP59 wrote:
This is how I see it going down.
Putin and Xi signed a pact.
after Olympics is over, Putin invades Ukraine
draws the West and US into war.
Xi then makes China’s move to annex Taiwan 
Iran sees the US stretched thinly and Nukes Israel 
And the same goes for Little Rocket-man sets off a nuke in Japan and invades South Korea 
And there you have it friends, the start of WWIII and the demise of modern mankind. Smok’em if you got’em and watch these events unfold.
Too many egomaniacs searching for world domination.
If you thing the supply chain is messed up now, just watch.
So is it too late to buy a fallout shelter? {#Eek}
 
Yer with CNN, or the State Department?
Or, nay... Raytheon? Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
 
{#Roflol} My dad worked for them for 39 years when you could actually have a lifetime secure job career.
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Posted: Feb 7, 2022 - 2:44pm

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Roughly 18% of population in Ukraine are Russian, mainly living in the east. Crimea has belonged to Russia (and USSR in between) since centuries. Their only navy port that doesn't freeze over during winter time is in and around Sevastopol (Crimea). 

Their troop build-up reflects NATO maneuvers on it's newly 'created' (and framed as) eastern flank.

Let's face it: Dialog is off, cold war is on, and the usual suspects (US) are defining the play.


re NATO manoeuvres on its Eastern flank...   do you mean the, wait for it, 1181 troops assigned under the enhanced forward presence?  
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Posted: Feb 7, 2022 - 2:39pm

 Ohmsen wrote:


Roughly 18% of population in Ukraine are Russian, mainly living in the east. Crimea has belonged to Russia (and USSR in between) since centuries. Their only navy port that doesn't freeze over during winter time is in and around Sevastopol (Crimea). 




re Crimea:

Following the Russian Revolution of 1917, Crimea became an autonomous republic within the Russian SFSR in the Soviet Union. During World War II, Crimea was downgraded to the Crimean Oblast and the entirety of one of its indigenous populations, the Crimean Tatars, were deported to Central Asia, an act recognized as a genocide by Ukraine and three other countries. In 1954, the Soviet Union transferred Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR from the Russian SFSR.<5> The transfer to Ukraine was made by Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev, a Ukrainian by birth.
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