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syahres

Location: Pittsburgh PA


Posted: Mar 18, 2026 - 9:30pm

 nelamvr6 wrote:


I can play Beyond on my iPhone and my Mac via the web, the only interface having issues it the one that matters the most, Roon...


Same with Lyrion, which I suspect uses the same API as Roon. The good news is that all of the other FLAC Interactive streams except for "Beyond..." are working at the moment. I'm not optimistic though, given the fact that all but the Main Mix were down most of the day. That's life in the development sandbox, I suppose.
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Location: New London, CT USA
Gender: Male


Posted: Mar 18, 2026 - 8:48pm

 nelamvr6 wrote:

I'm having an issue playing Beyond via Roon. I'm trying to play the FLAC stream, but when I click play the Roon interface shows that the stream is coming in as AAC 44.1kHz 2ch 319 kbps . Meanwhile the Main Mix has no issues playing at all.



I can play Beyond on my iPhone and my Mac via the web, the only interface having issues it the one that matters the most, Roon...
syahres

Location: Pittsburgh PA


Posted: Mar 18, 2026 - 8:17pm

 William wrote:

Someone suggested a postmortem report on the last set of incidents. That's a great idea. I'll be doing a blog post soon. Maybe I can weave all of the details into some grand philosophical treatise. Love me a grand philosophical treatise.

But, in the meantime, I've given this a lot of thought and these things seem true:

1. Doing things in an orderly, methodical fashion is a lot easier when you're dealing with proven, documented systems & tools rather than inventing everything as you go.

2. Some aspects of my personal psychology really get in our way.

Here's an example: the normal workflow when developing or updating software is to configure and test everything in a 'sandbox' or development environment, and to only deploy to production (public-facing) servers when you're sure everything is working correctly. 

That requires separate servers just for testing and development. In the early days of RP luxuries like that were out of the question. I felt lucky to have even one dedicated database server, and buying or leasing another one would take money I'd rather spend it on expanding our stream relay network. So much sexier, y'know. 

So I developed what they call a "cowboy coding" approach: trying out new features and fixing bugs on the same servers — and database data — that you depend on to deliver our streams, apps, & website. Frantically typing raw SQL commands and writing nasty BASH scripts as everything melts down because of a semicolon. A FREAKIN' SEMICOLON! The stress of moments like that — so many moments like that — has probably taken a year or ten off my lifespan. Especially when it comes to semicolons. The least useful bit of punctuation in the mongrel tongue being force-fed to the entire world, but the whole web would grind to a halt without 'em.

The hopefully-final straw is that, for a variety of reasons, this time around I was more aware than ever of how difficult my working style makes things for others. Cowboy coders are generally a solo act, and RP is much more of a rock band at this point. When a band is in the groove, getting people off their asses and onto the floor, the last thing they need is for the keyboard player to announce between songs that he'd just converted to the Church of A432, and that they needed to stop, ignore their audience, and retune all of their instruments to match. 

The audience, all jacked and sweaty just moments ago, is left standing around, bored and disappointed — and the keyboard player's assurances that the disruption is all in service of a glorious greater good don't really help. 

So, apologies to all of you — and my bandmates — for the disruptions. We'll be setting up that development server.  And I'll be using it.  

3. Something else that I — and several others involved — bring to the table is a kind of irrational optimism that leads us to assume that whatever we're doing will happen smoothly & quickly, without any problems. That leads one to ignore the need to deeply research potential problems in advance, and to treat a superficial understanding of something as good enough.

CarPlay integration in the new iOS app is a good case in point. There were three of us making the key decisions about the app, and none of us had ever actually used CarPlay. We assumed that we knew enough to accurately assess things and make the right choice. Obviously, we were wrong. If we'd taken the time to do our homework we would have known that before we'd disrupted our relationship with thousands of loyal listeners. Like you.

I'm sorry.  



It's been 17 days since this post, which is the most recent from the RP "Rock band". Seeing as, by definition, a postmortem can't technically be produced until after the subject is officially pronounced dead, maybe "prognosis" would be the appropriate term for an update on RP's current condition (which, from my perspective, appears to be grim).

Any news?

nelamvr6

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Location: New London, CT USA
Gender: Male


Posted: Mar 18, 2026 - 6:39pm

I'm having an issue playing Beyond via Roon. I'm trying to play the FLAC stream, but when I click play the Roon interface shows that the stream is coming in as AAC 44.1kHz 2ch 319 kbps . Meanwhile the Main Mix has no issues playing at all.
syahres

Location: Pittsburgh PA


Posted: Mar 18, 2026 - 6:35pm

Okay. My patience has come to an end. Every FLAC Interactive stream except the Main Mix is now unusable through the API used by the Lyrion plugin (HTTP 302 redirection errors), and my understanding is that multiple requests to work with your technical personnel on addressing these and other issues occurring over the last months have gone unanswered.

I continue to hope that these issues do get resolved but, in the meantime, I am cancelling my monthly membership donation until the dust has settled. In the meantime, I suggest that you prioritize improving the quality of the existing service over adding additional client apps and streams.

Sincere good wishes and regards from a long-time listener and fan.
chuck.h.johnson

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Posted: Mar 18, 2026 - 3:36pm

Dowloads no longer show how much time/how many songs are left after playback has started/stopped. Old version showed remaining time so I knew how soon to download more. At least now it starts playback where I left off. Using 9.0.5 on iOS. I lose cell connection frequently in the mountains so this is key for me. Thanks for any help!
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Posted: Mar 18, 2026 - 1:23pm

Hi. Downloading cache blocks works fine except for My Paradise where "Error retrieving cache block." is the only result. I've cleared all data, uninstalled RP, rebooted phone, reinstalled many times and nothing. Changing storage location, data rates, block duration, WiFi only, etc have no effect. It worked fine till today. No more. Xiaomi HyperOS but I'm seeing similar complaints from Android and IOS too. -Thanks
syahres

Location: Pittsburgh PA


Posted: Mar 17, 2026 - 2:01pm

The Serenity FLAC Interactive stream has been unavailable (to me anyway) since at least yesterday. It seems to be hung up in a HTTP redirection loop (302) trying to fetch the announcement blurb.

Anybody else seeing this?
sdn

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Location: Philadelphia


Posted: Mar 17, 2026 - 1:19pm

 jy.vern327 wrote:

Since several days, I can't fill the cache with my favorites. I get "Error reteaving cache block". Is there a problem with my android app or is it a server problem ?



Same here.  The RP app hasn't been updated in a while, so I was wondering if it had something to do with an Android update that was installed a couple days ago.
cvdwl

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Location: Ecotopia
Gender: Male


Posted: Mar 17, 2026 - 11:58am

 dryan67 wrote:

I see that a Download choice for CarPlay had not been add on the main CarPlay screen in the new update (9.05). Will this be added in the future? I like that a percentage has been included during download though. Thanks.


Seconded!

jy.vern327

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Posted: Mar 17, 2026 - 7:59am

Since several days, I can't fill the cache with my favorites. I get "Error reteaving cache block". Is there a problem with my android app or is it a server problem ?
dryan67

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Location: Ansonia, Connecticut


Posted: Mar 16, 2026 - 7:59am

I see that a Download choice for CarPlay had not been add on the main CarPlay screen in the new update (9.05). Will this be added in the future? I like that a percentage has been included during download though. Thanks.
CharlesMcR

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Posted: Mar 16, 2026 - 3:27am

 mtngrrl wrote:

I'm tentatively optimistic about Alexa! After weeks of experiencing loops and stops, it seems to be working as normal again, even with skips. Thank you, RP!



Ditto
markcpitman

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Location: Buffalo, NY


Posted: Mar 15, 2026 - 6:37pm

I just updated to the latest version of the app. Still not seeing Serenity or Radio 2050. Any insight?
Ihatethissong

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Posted: Mar 13, 2026 - 8:03pm

Just want to report that the issue I was having was entirely on my end.  My PC was connected to a stereo system via bluetooth.  I connected them via a cable and the playback "skipping" issue ceased.
mtngrrl

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Posted: Mar 13, 2026 - 3:24pm

I'm tentatively optimistic about Alexa! After weeks of experiencing loops and stops, it seems to be working as normal again, even with skips. Thank you, RP!
ScottFromWyoming

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Location: Powell
Gender: Male


Posted: Mar 12, 2026 - 11:36am

Prowling around the site while listening, clicking on "What's Playing" (Music tab) kills the stream. Going back to a page with the player embedded let me pick up more or less where I left off, which is good, but clicking the play button lower right corner (different from all other pages) starts a new stream potentially skipping a song I wanted to hear.

konz

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Posted: Mar 11, 2026 - 4:36pm

 konz wrote:

Still having a problem on Sonos S1 where it plays only 10 or so songs on whatever stream I select.  This is the My Paradise (Favorites) stream.  After 10 or so songs, it stops playing.  When I hit Play again, it starts the same 10 or so songs over again and shows different times for the replayed songs.  This must be Sonos' way of telling me to upgrade.

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Update: After submitting a request to Sonos and gaining their insight, I was able to "isolate" the issue down to the My Paradise stream queue not advancing.  With this and other streams, the queue size is always 10.  However, the difference between a working and non-working stream was that a working stream would keep refreshing the queue position, meaning that it never reached 10.  The My Paradise stream would fill the queue once with 10 songs and then quit afterward.  Pressing Play again replayed the same queued songs over again.

I reported this to the RP team a few days ago and it was fixed yesterday.

Just wanted to write and shout-out some thanks to the RP team for fixing this issue that I've been seeing for a couple months and wondering if it was a feature or a bug.  Turns out it's been fixed.

Mwrwellcom

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Posted: Mar 11, 2026 - 1:11pm

 mykoweb wrote:


It's doing it again today. This stopping problem has been happening for a while now. Very annoying! 


Me too!

Mwrwellcom

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Posted: Mar 11, 2026 - 1:10pm

Been listening non-stop for over 20 years. This latest app update keeps stopping! It'll play for a half hour, or an an hour or so, then it just stops.....I never would have imagined how this would affect me, but it is really a bummer. I hope this gets the attention it deserves, soon. Thanks for playing!
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