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Posted: Oct 3, 2025 - 12:23pm

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And in the worst case you'll face genocide by the oppressor (while abettors deny and assist it).


there may be a limit to non-violence...unless you are Gandhi or Noam...but do not see a reason to raise up my knife 
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Posted: Oct 3, 2025 - 11:20am

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Of course...and most political leaders are in some way "insane."
And if you believe that broader humanity has a "conscience", then by remaining non‑violent the hypocrisy of the oppressor will be exposed.

And in the worst case you'll face genocide by the oppressor (while abettors deny and assist it).
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Posted: Oct 3, 2025 - 11:02am

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Non-violence is always the better way to go. It's notable though that the party being protested against always insists on non-violent protest, but is happy to use violence to oppress those that are protesting (usually protesting their oppression). 


Of course...and most political leaders are in some way "insane."
And if you believe that broader humanity has a "conscience", then by remaining non‑violent the hypocrisy of the oppressor will be exposed.

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Posted: Oct 3, 2025 - 10:18am

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Non-violence works when movements combine moral authority, mass participation, strategic planning, and media/international attention, including:

US Civil Rights Movement
SA Anti Apartheid
Czech Velvet Revolution
Poland Solidarity
India's independence




Non-violence is always the better way to go. It's notable though that the party being protested against always insists on non-violent protest, but is happy to use violence to oppress those that are protesting (usually protesting their oppression). 
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Posted: Oct 3, 2025 - 9:49am

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Non-violence works when movements combine moral authority, mass participation, strategic planning, and media/international attention, including:

US Civil Rights Movement
SA Anti Apartheid
Czech Velvet Revolution
Poland Solidarity
India's independence

The highlighted ones involved political violence as well.

As did your Revolutionary and Civil wars.
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Posted: Oct 3, 2025 - 9:39am

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The violence you employ against opponents (reviled enemies outside or now supposedly within the country) inevitably comes home to your neighbors and yourself.

First They Came



Non-violence works when movements combine moral authority, mass participation, strategic planning, and media/international attention, including:

US Civil Rights Movement
SA Anti Apartheid
Czech Velvet Revolution
Poland Solidarity
India's independence


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Posted: Oct 3, 2025 - 9:30am

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You dont need to worry about your opponent as much as you do your neighbor. 

The violence you employ against opponents (reviled enemies outside or now supposedly within the country) inevitably comes home to your neighbors and yourself.

First They Came

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Posted: Oct 3, 2025 - 9:13am

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You dont need to worry about your opponent as much as you do your neighbor. 
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Posted: Oct 3, 2025 - 9:07am

 black321 wrote:
this is why its more important than ever to adopt non-violent protest. 


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Posted: Oct 3, 2025 - 8:53am

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I’m very disappointed in The Resistance for not using tech means to fight back



How so?

Using media without appearing partisan can be challenging, though it can be achieved

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Posted: Oct 3, 2025 - 8:48am

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this is why its more important than ever to adopt non-violent protest. 


I’m very disappointed in The Resistance for not using tech means to fight back

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Posted: Oct 3, 2025 - 8:45am

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Chris Hedges: Trump’s War on America
The latest Presidential memo, “Countering Domestic Terrorism and Organized Political Violence,” is to be a preemptive war against those individuals and institutions which threaten Trump’s absolute grip on power.
Fascists, historically, are surprisingly candid about the world they intend to create. Those they target, despite this transparency, are surprisingly obtuse about what is coming.

The most ominous warning to date from our homegrown fascists is the latest Presidential memo, “Countering Domestic Terrorism and Organized Political Violence.”

It accuses any critic of law enforcement, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), the American empire, capitalism, the Christian right, the persecution of immigrants and those that decry discrimination based on race and gender, as well as those who question white, male patriarchy, described as “traditional American views on family, religion, and morality,” of fomenting “violent revolution.”

It is a declaration of war on the so-called “radical left,” those the Trump administration blames for “heinous assassinations and other acts of political violence” from the murder of the right-wing pundit Charlie Kirk to “the 2024 assassination of a senior healthcare executive and the 2022 assassination attempt against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.” The memo goes on to list the two assassination attempts against Trump.

The memo, typical of the self-serving narratives favored by Trump, ignores the murder by a Christian nationalist of Democratic Minnesota state legislator Melissa Hortman and her husband, and the attempted murder of state senator John Hoffman and his wife.

These “anti-fascists,” the White House memo warns ominously, “have created a movement that embraces and elevates violence to achieve policy outcomes, including justifying additional assassinations.” (...)

This is not simply a war on the left, which is a marginal and ineffective force in American society, but a war on the remnants of our liberal institutions and those that support them. Once these establishment institutions and their representatives are neutered those of us on the left will be next. (...)



this is why its more important than ever to adopt non-violent protest. 

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Posted: Oct 2, 2025 - 4:48pm

Chris Hedges: Trump’s War on America
The latest Presidential memo, “Countering Domestic Terrorism and Organized Political Violence,” is to be a preemptive war against those individuals and institutions which threaten Trump’s absolute grip on power.
Fascists, historically, are surprisingly candid about the world they intend to create. Those they target, despite this transparency, are surprisingly obtuse about what is coming.

The most ominous warning to date from our homegrown fascists is the latest Presidential memo, “Countering Domestic Terrorism and Organized Political Violence.”

It accuses any critic of law enforcement, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), the American empire, capitalism, the Christian right, the persecution of immigrants and those that decry discrimination based on race and gender, as well as those who question white, male patriarchy, described as “traditional American views on family, religion, and morality,” of fomenting “violent revolution.”

It is a declaration of war on the so-called “radical left,” those the Trump administration blames for “heinous assassinations and other acts of political violence” from the murder of the right-wing pundit Charlie Kirk to “the 2024 assassination of a senior healthcare executive and the 2022 assassination attempt against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.” The memo goes on to list the two assassination attempts against Trump.

The memo, typical of the self-serving narratives favored by Trump, ignores the murder by a Christian nationalist of Democratic Minnesota state legislator Melissa Hortman and her husband, and the attempted murder of state senator John Hoffman and his wife.

These “anti-fascists,” the White House memo warns ominously, “have created a movement that embraces and elevates violence to achieve policy outcomes, including justifying additional assassinations.” (...)

This is not simply a war on the left, which is a marginal and ineffective force in American society, but a war on the remnants of our liberal institutions and those that support them. Once these establishment institutions and their representatives are neutered those of us on the left will be next. (...)

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Posted: Sep 1, 2025 - 8:35pm

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Rrrregime change!


"But at what cost?"


Don’t worry the drug cartels will pump money into all that to get product to the buyers faster.   
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Posted: Sep 1, 2025 - 8:28pm

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Rrrregime change!


"But at what cost?"


Won't be long till they build a wall to keep Americans out

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Posted: Aug 29, 2025 - 7:11am

Rrrregime change!

"But at what cost?"
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Posted: Aug 27, 2025 - 11:05pm

Trump hating woman takes her anger out on Catholic children in a premeditated attack by shooting them in cold blood.

Wonder if the FBI calling Catholics domestic terrorists had anything to do with it ?
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